tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18614557.post9175134353703704078..comments2024-03-28T22:29:05.434+00:00Comments on Relational psychiatry: IAPT propaganda truly impressiveDBDoublehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16140020984190294123noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18614557.post-72581418344630723762013-04-19T15:50:26.590+01:002013-04-19T15:50:26.590+01:00Recovery is defined - it's discharge from serv...Recovery is defined - it's discharge from services and not being on benefits. This is what all policies are based on nowAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18614557.post-1447311854248937462012-12-10T18:01:36.332+00:002012-12-10T18:01:36.332+00:00I've seen some really appalling attempts to re...I've seen some really appalling attempts to redefine what 'recovery' means in order to justify treatments.<br /><br />The results of the largest trial of CBT and GET for 'Chronic Fatigue Syndrome' led to patients being classed as 'recovered' even when they still fulfilled the criteria for 'severe and disabling fatigue'. The researchers involved are currently fighting against an FOI that would require them to release the data for 'recovery' as it was defined in their published protocol: http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/pace_trial_recovery_rates_and_po<br /><br />It needs to be recognised that 'recovery' is widely thought by patients to mean a return to a prior state of health. If 'treatments' are only leading to minor changes in questionnaire scores and on-going disability then we need to be honest about that, both to patients and to commissioners.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18614557.post-90469272007185163512012-12-10T11:38:16.404+00:002012-12-10T11:38:16.404+00:00Surely it is not possible to measure quality of li...Surely it is not possible to measure quality of life by quantitative means.<br /><br />People will seek treatment when they feel unwell, not when they prove statistically likely to be suffering from one condition or the other.<br /><br />Money is quantitative, and it will only be allocated by government for treatments which can be quantitatively justified.<br /><br />Unfortunately, people who don't feel well often need something more qualitative.<br /><br />This is why I am training to be a psychotherapist rather than a psychiatrist, but it's already clear that many of the people who could benefit from working with me will not be able to afford to do so.<br /><br />I will have to charge for my time in order to make a living, but within that time I will offer compassion, empathy, unconditional positive regard, encouragement etc. - ie the things money can't buy, but which are essential to health and wellbeing.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18614557.post-88296513003315588132012-12-09T13:56:30.896+00:002012-12-09T13:56:30.896+00:00" You must be gutted you bothered with medica..." You must be gutted you bothered with medical school."<br /><br />Almost every psychiatrist except for a very select few brave ones who have the courage to oppose forced psychiatry and have the courage to really speak their mind and endure the enmity of their colleagues, should be gutted they ever wasted their opportunity to become real doctors.<br /><br />Arguing about a bureaucratic report, while Rome burns.<br /><br />It's all propaganda, not just this report, the entire profession is propaganda. <br /><br />Double-speak.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18614557.post-76637975497347371022012-12-09T00:35:00.853+00:002012-12-09T00:35:00.853+00:00I see non-Doctors are to be wacky down ICD-10 prov...I see non-Doctors are to be wacky down ICD-10 provisional diagnosis as well. You must be gutted you bothered with medical school. Time would have been better spent learning how to mix the perfect G&T.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18614557.post-22626904676082203582012-12-09T00:25:57.905+00:002012-12-09T00:25:57.905+00:00Thanks.
Recovery should be defined personally. im...Thanks.<br /><br />Recovery should be defined personally. imo. I find the whole idea of a clinician showing a patient a GAD or PHQ or Hnos score and saying look you're recovered absurd. But that seems to be what they are suggesting.<br /><br />AS you know the quality of the CBT offered at ones local CMHT is usually nothing like that at academic centres where all the research is done. I can only imagine that the average IAPT session is pretty dire.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18614557.post-22649974711462542612012-12-08T22:43:00.698+00:002012-12-08T22:43:00.698+00:00"Recovery rates are defined by patients movin..."Recovery rates are defined by patients moving to below caseness on clinical outcomes scores as a proportion of the number of people ending contact with services and receiving at least two sessions of treatment." Taken from <a href="http://www.iapt.nhs.uk/silo/files/realising-the-benefits-iapt-at-full-roll-out.pdf" rel="nofollow">Realising the benefits. IAPT at full roll-out.</a> Feb 2010. I agree it's remarkable that recovery is not defined in the report.DBDoublehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16140020984190294123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18614557.post-86017043481925761422012-12-08T22:13:01.142+00:002012-12-08T22:13:01.142+00:00To be considered cases at the start of treatment p...To be considered cases at the start of treatment patients are required to score above 9 on the PHQ-9 and/or above 7 on the GAD-7 at assessment. They are said to have recovered if their score goes below these cut-off levels at the end of treatment.<br /><br />Is this in the report itself? Cant see it.<br /><br />I would love to see where this is written down.<br /><br />Thanks in advace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com