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Moving from an outdated physical disease model of mental illness to a more relational mental health practice
Moving from an outdated physical disease model of mental illness to a more relational mental health practice
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«Oldest ‹Older 801 – 1000 of 1415 Newer› Newest»This tool, the Internet has been created by the mathematicians. They take you to sky from Japan non-stop to Paris and then non-stop to Los Angeles and then non-stop again back to Japan. You eat and talk and walk and sleep and never feel that you are floating on the thin air up there and even cannot breath out of your vehicle. When one plays with that sort of problems then he is always euphoric and high and optimistic and idyllic and never believes that a wriggling wiggling worm in the darkness is plotting for him and his family to make the life a miserable hell for him.
Carlo DJ
The Internet and computer, so devised, is still in the dominion of the geeks. They have heated the game such that they have eliminated the farting hoard from meddling in the affair. For example, they have decided not to deliver legislation for prevention of code breaking in recording of movies on media (dvd and such). That is, separation of healer from the law. The side who can engineer the better code or code cracker wins the arena. That will deliver a lot of wealth and power to mathematicians who better can manage the world.
This is the secrete that I can write and survive now, and prevent the worm decaying my life.
Carlo DJ
One other story is that when they take there, and start to suffer you, you might decide to turn and curse them and return with bad words and calumnies. You become surprised that they are calm. Further, they might join to you in swear. They say they are rank and files and commanders do not hear or retold one word of yours, or tell you they are just mercenaries and their master is a superpower and you should revenge from them, or tell you they have mission from the God and if you can you should revenge from the God. They might tell you if you shout and curse gradually you become one of them. These you call mental suffering in your language. It is the most painful level of inflicting someone to rip him off of even the least possible joy of revenge. This is satanic. Only Messiah has tolerated the ultimate of that pain machinated by the Satan in its apocalypse.
Carlo DJ
Carlo DJ
In all these stories at both sides of the quarrel there is something human and fair. They are at some official war game with each other. Messiah who is the victim of the satanic sacrifice is in peace with the whole being and they do all these things to Him with the knowledge that He is pure and innocent
Carlo DJ
Allow me to finish what I would like to say about TV show Frasier. This becomes related to the article by Tracey Hayes titled as misrepresentation that I discussed earlier. First, using names of those two brothers is an excuse for me to say my mean. The writer of that show is a person with much humour and a lot of humanistic touches in those characters. The only advise and idea about problems of people we hear from them is, "Good bye until tomorrow. We hope you’ve enjoyed our program!" After that they do not think further about any darn client. All is about good food, good pay, good holiday, having a good single, bachelor life and similar issues. Hence why should you be worried when the shrink is not worried? When he comes to you he tells to himself, "Let me see who the f* is this one! I can't remember! Whoever!" Those pompous words are to make dossier. Read any sign of the Zodiac but yours, and then you see that all is about you. Read them at any time, date, place, language, they are all about you. There is a voice in your head that orders you to catch when there is faintest idea in your ‘mind’ that it is related. That is the voice of enemy of human who is coordinated with psychiatry from the ancient time; twelve thousand years ago or more.
We should go and change this sentence in declaration of human rights "... except people with unsound mind as confirmed by a doctor...who are liable to be ripped off of their freedom without any charge." Something like this. We should ask them how a doctor is able to gauge soundness of your mind, and what is a mind then? What has been gifted to unsound minds by declaration of human rights is offering services that means and is another word for detention.
Carlo DJ
I believe you cannot pull them together; hmm?
Yanis
Yes! It is because I have assumptions that you are not in full acknowledgement of them. To move further, I am searching to understand what is the meaning of consent and informed consent. They are allowed to take you as a lunatic upon their own discretion and judgement whether you agree or do not agree. They inform you that you are a lunatic and for services you should be detained. This is done without your consent but they inform you with your body present there. Now, even further it is allowed that they judge you as a lunatic and do not inform you about their judgement. They do it without your body being present there, in absentia. This is said as " without informed consent". It means that upon being labelled as a lunatic you do not have the right of challenge and legally they can take you to a safe house with unidentified staff and start to do things with you and if you want to leave the place then they prevent you. I discuss extreme to see if such thing is possible in accordance of the UN human rights and guidelines for mentally ill labelled people. I do not understand the meaning of “ … informed contention is not necessary.” You know the anti-psychiatry movement has been being concerned mostly with the idea that the traditional psychiatry discipline of human activities is not competent for its discourse. I am concerned about the law. There is a law in industrialised world that gives total access in spite of all findings to certain class of living humans to be dealt exceptionally and not equal to others. You know when bad guys find a simpleton they cheat him. For example when an educated lawyer buys a second hand car, then the car dealer gives him a junkyard car as an item of collectables value. Or they sell things to foreigners ten times of their real values. The list is endless. In each case they believe it is allowed to cheat someone due to his lack of desired socialisation or language or other allowing circumstances. Legislator also believes that he can cheat a group of citizens with one degree of competence less than the above-mentioned examples.
We want to discuss that the declaration of human rights is written to encounter sly situations for abuse of human rights otherwise even bandits behave brotherly with their own gang. They took people to deadly camps and said that there were doctors around but the deceased people did not visit them because of being disgruntled living in a camp. Japanese commander of far east camps later in nineteen sixties was talking with students believed that so many people in camps died because they were not used to so much rice; they were used to shepherd pies! The most stupid organization that I have found is the organization that defends the human rights for those who already are enjoying the human rights. The declaration supposedly is written to check and curb the idea that a group of people are “more equal” than the others. People should go to Un and ask them to change the declaration of human rights such that “nobody should be detained except that he commit an offend according to a court judgement with his own body present there, and having the right of equal challenge."
Carlo DJ
your proposition about the antipsychiatry is not concise.
Yanis
I know. "Comrade Mao has written everything already. I have a war to fight!"
I mean people never looked at the legal side of this issue. The group in Germany or Mind Freedom in the US want the human rights of the UN recognizes them as nice good citizens and opens a phrase for giving better services to lunatics. Lunatics might be nice or violent or dangerous or helpful or sacrificing or genius or dumb or whatever. It is correct that they ask that the declaration of human rights should not mention any clause regarding mentally ill labelled or disabled or gays or women or 'niagaras' and others to qualify them for being amorphous, at least in the eyes of the declaration.
Carlo DJ
The other duty, besides informing the human rights about its lack of plurality regarding the different flavours of the human species, and we should ask them to go and work in a delivery room for a couple of months and decides that if they are able to distinguish a bad one in the moment of birth and detain him or give him less right than the others, that duty is to create a great awareness among the other branches of scholar activities about the traditional coercive psychiatry. Specially, we should inform those of engineering, physics, mathematics, biologist, geologists, and chemists. They know some of their own colleagues become pathological and report based on the wrong and biased data and doctor the results. They know about Kuhn's idea and Scheff's 'Academic Gangs'. They know "a theory dies only when its defenders die, not when it encounters a refutation!" In pathology they are sure that it is not due to the subject matter itself. it returns to a personal mischief. They have seen that the case becomes isolated and carved out without preventing flourishing of that discipline globally. The other hurdles also are locale and due to imperfections of the real world. They are new challenges not mummifying the whole discipline. They do not know that the traditional coercive psychiatry is not a scientific branch of human activity. They say, 'well it has imperfections that gradually will sort out'! Look they make computers out of silicon; a small group of them are working to make it out of, say, gallium for creating foundations for future generations of computer. Respectively when they read some newspaper or something after dinner about psychiatry they consider the traditional psychiatry as silicon computers and Szasz ideas as gallium computers. Traditional, coercive psychiatry is hiding in the shades and if you take him it is very talkative. (I can remember, how my humble sole was amazed when I was reading that they want to map the brain to find the faulty points responsible for schizophrenia.)
You know the lady who reads the coffee mug. She impresses many housewives about the future of their lives. Psychiatry can talk a lot about MRI and PET pictures and neurons and fluids. If ever, in the whole hell of the history any housewife has come back to the coffee reader lady then the designers of PET would come back to psychiatry to claim for proof of his assertions.
Carlo DJ
Yes, in above comment I should correct the 'humble sole' to 'humble soul'. I have too much reliance on word processor. But actually my humble sole was amazed. It can be correct too.
Carlo DJ
I fear to forget this assertion. It is related to what I said to one before the previous comment. Because according to the law in the industrialised world psychiatrists detain and experiment with lunatics and government pays them without they have to have any tangible meaningful result this activity has been omitted from the course of the competition and challenging minds to give new and courageous ideas and in the course of five years (half life of a sizzling idea) that become challenged with a hostile idea and surge after surge. This is all I understand why the healer should be separate from the law. And I notice that some people already have mentioned it.
Carlo DJ
On the other hand we should go and inform leaders and preachers of religions and philosophers and similar entities. This group are in contrast with hard scientists in that they are very frightened of hard science and when somebody positions himself as a scientist he reminds them of Galileo and all that story of their defamation. They say because scientists bring hard evidence for us we do not argue and do not intervene. Church told Galileo that they should first argue to see if it is possible to have a new object in the sky. Galileo was not against any discussion. He believed they should also consider the evidence by looking into the telescope besides philosophical arguing.
Carlo DJ
Again I have to ask you to clear yourself. Who is the good guy who is the bad guy in your discussion regarding Szasz compared with advanced computers and others compared with conventional computers. Please explain further.
Yanis
No, wait a minute. I meant an average scientist, university teacher, an engineer, a scholar of objective sciences, a practitioner of computer, a physics teacher at high school, such type of people believe that a psychiatrist is a doctor, with knowledge of physiology of brain and nerve system, a knowledge of biochemistry and he uses these knowledge on a daily basis to reduce a disease to a well being and controlled stage objectively. In this course of action the patient and others cannot figure out how the improvements have happened but the doctor somehow has a grasp of all processes involved. He, the psychiatrist, has recently, coordinated with other branches of medicine and science, now the outsider supposes, been equipped with the latest electronics and computerised instrument to attack with a deeper insight into the involved processes and in any minute you can hear breakthroughs in resolving the mental illness once and for all the time among the human species (not bad if you read Hermann Hesse's Herr Sinclair). If you tell them that there are people such as Szasz or others who have another ideas about mental illness, they believe that you mean part of the psychiatrists are working in frontiers of psychiatry proven knowledge and they are devising new remedies and solutions for rare types of the disease or faster or better administration of that, while the bulk are doing their daily practice in clinical and dominant and real environment that leaves no energy for fancy research. If you say psychiatry abuse then they suppose that some individuals in psychiatry have touched inappropriately their female patient, whose act is not related to the whole psychiatry; it is an individual act. If you say pathology, they understand that one psychiatrist wants to beam you up to Mars.
I did not judge who is bad guy or who is a good guy. I said other people has no notion that traditional coercing psychiatrists are of genre of politicians and prison wardens and similar people who are passing years towards their retirement with a good pay. Well they have been in school to become certified for employment.
Carlo DJ
Why are you tweaking psychiatry? you were supposed to use this place for self analysis. Now, were are you?
Yanis
Since I am Messiah. I said antichrist gets itself to a place where to be able to get the total access, in the earthly world, to its human sacrifice without people become suspicious of its intent and without allowing the victim escape or victim be able to reason. It should falsify any reasoning of the Messiah beforehand. It should put wax on the ears of people to prevent them hearing the voice of Messiah. It should put blindfold on the eyes of people to bar them to behold on the face of Messiah. It should gag people not to talk with Him. How you can do these in the real physics of the world. The only feasible way to make Messiah invalid from the time of the Abraham, for Satan who is the enemy of the whole beings is to call the saviour a 'mad'. Who handles the mad if not the witch doctor? The witch doctor is somebody who is half witch and half doctor.
Carlo DJ
If you are convinced I should continue. Should I?
Carlo DJ
I never am conviced of anynof your comments. Neverthelss, you can continue if you would like.
Yanis
Hence, I continue. I said engineers provide instruments, modern gadgets, for psychiatry in expectation that they go and find the 'microbe' of schizophrenia. And they never come back to check if it has actually found a fruitful usage. What if they, the engineers, come and show the place of schizophrenia, like a dot on the map of brain and draw a circle around it and point to the dot with red arrows. What happens then? Does psychiatry go and treat or cure that point. "No light comes into the big psychiatry's eyes." He just stares at you, puzzled what you are talking about. Next day you find him putting his finger in the asshole of the poor loony. It looks like the dot and circle and red arrows around.
This is the spoof of the 'Clouseau' somebody hinted two years ago here.
Carlo DJ
'Clouseau' removes the tooth of the mentally ill, instead. I guess.
Yanis
Yes, and the psychiatry do that, too. You cannot believe. Traditional coercing psychiatry puts his finger in the bottom of the loony to pull his tooth, because he believes it is the cause of the lunacy and it is the way that should be done. There is medically a passage to remove your tooth from your bottom. It only needs a proper gadget that passes through, a torch, a plier and that is all.
I said that you couldn’t believe. All these things have been done to me. I used to go regularly for dental check to a very nice gentleman with excellent skill and care and very teacher type explaining every detail of his plan and your tooth condition and doing with the least expense and least waste of time having everything on a fine computer program next to him. Until it came the time that 'The Impostor' who is the enemy of human being and the enemy of Messiah started to intensify his actions against me under the disguise of 'therapy by the help of the individuals of the community'. When for the last time four years ago (or three years, I can’t remember years anymore) as usual I went to see this dentist who is in south of Iatfield at the Top of the Hill. Instead of concentrating on my teeth he started to tell cock and bull stories and non-sense taught to him incorporating cues such as I should stop and similar things. He did nothing not even the regular cleaning he used to do. He then sent me, bashfully, a small bill to be paid. If the actions of ‘The Impostor' were limited to these types of actions it could make a lampoon of pseudo scientific operations. But only Messiah knows and that dentist also cannot dream of what a devil, evil, motivation was for ’The Impostor' to ask the dentist to annoy me instead of caring my teeth.
During this period of time some of my tooth fillings and parts of my teeth has been chipped and broken and I have been left in this advanced technological country without dental care. I am living here in the situation of Papillion (Wikipedia or Prison Flicks) who was in the worst inhuman prisons of the most dangerous criminals before Second World War. You then appreciate why they say Messiah tolerates all harshness of human being.
Carlo DJ
Only link corrected.
Perhaps it is advisable to complain to an ombadsmen or human rights group if you feel you have been victimized or been subjected to degrading humilating treatment.
Yanis
For Messiah there is no sanctuary among human. When Messiah comes then that sanctuary is rotten for him and acts in contrary. This is consistent. If that sanctuary becomes existed the merger happens, similar that salty water penetrates to the fresh water lake.
I have this for people in the books of all prophets.
God tells to Mo-hammad, "Thou art living in the sanctuary for any man or animal, the village of omni-peace, except that only you are allowed by them to be disrespected even to be killed." Moses was a member of royal family that people could not even touch the walls of their palace but he became subject of the death threat.
And it is true for Jesus and Abraham.
Joseph became subject of cruelty half the way and his suffering ended with sovereignty over his foes. I suspect that a vein of merger appeared on the material texture of the world. He was a man of great endurance for earthly wisdom and prudence of man. That story remains as it as pleasant as it is. It is a facade of global mind of human. Loq’maan (supposedly Socrates) was offered to select to be a prophet or a 'Hakeem', that is a wise man or a philosopher and he said that he could not bear such a load of duty and preferred to become a philosopher. For him the time became reset as if Satan did not reach itself to its desired earthly position of control of the society. Messiah who is ‘The Perfect Human’ unifies all of these aspects.
Carlo DJ
Before continuing the story of 'The Perfect Human', I noticed something interesting in Radio Four, late night around seventh September of this two-thousand and seven. It was around the disorder of people who do not eat until they die because they believe they are fat. There was a psychiatrist specialised in this disorder. She believed the 'patient' should be detained and coerced into eating because he has not the mind capacity to understand what psychiatrists explain for him about his disorder and there was teacher of law and ethics who believed this type of behaviour is similar to people who are politically or religiously motivated to hunger themselves for some well established cause. Well, the psychiatrist believed, or has to believe that political ones decide for their hunger on a free will, while the disordered people are affected helplessly from inside. A mature person in mountains of somewhere can easily recognise both group are from the same texture with similar behaviour. The new mental health bill recently created here is based on this scope. Only the Bedbug of Mayakovsky is exonerated as a mentally healthy accordingly.
Carlo DJ
For example, the elderly teacher who in the recent shooting in the V Tech US was killed blocking his classroom against the shooting, if he had been screened when he was sixteen, he would be diagnosed with many description of abnormalities of mind by psychiatrist. His life if you read is full of episodes that he outrageously and violently had engaged with the environment. Instead of having a peaceful corner with his familiar mother tongue and society and all the respects he preferred a difficult life living as an alien in foreign societies. He stood against the shower of bullets to block the door and gave time to his students to escape and drink the full goblet of youth. That society could give that opportunity to the perpetrator of the slaughter as well. If they did not sound the false alarm for the 'quiescent idiot' to be detained and hospitalised and medicated with community order and had asked him to join to the social game and playing with him instead of mobilising the forces of suppression and seclusion and punishment and poisoning he also could become like that teacher; a little weird but harmless. I have seen hundred of them and I am going to write about each of them such that you can appreciate that what is the risk of modern society.
Carlo DJ
Another story is about the lady who has written a book together with her husband about her suffering in the devastating hands of traditional coercing psychiatry and how she had managed to rescue her life from their further destruction. That is a beautiful, human and admirable effort and a lesson for others who might trust to psychiatry. Someone, perhaps a paid agent of psychiatry has written a short review about the book at the famous online bookshop. The reviewer has tried slyly to annex that beautiful attempt to psychiatry as if that lifetime attempt was something desirable and actually part of psychiatry just like the horoscope writers. The reviewers call the inconsequential destructive and futile psychiatry as if "people do not know about complexity of psychiatry." Psychiatry is not complex. It is pathological.
Carlo DJ
You are using this word 'pathological' too many times. I am fedup.
Yanis
I use that word - pathological science- frequently and talk about psychiatry in the same way that Jesus would talk about Satin and Pharisians (messianic comment).
Look, alchemy was pathological. If you give them all the labs and instruments of modern chemistry, that does not change their achievement. It is not related to their goals and understandings. They continue cheating, more sophisticatedly, hiding a piece of gold inside the lead and doing strange things and repeating strange words and pretending that the lead has been changed to gold. They keep annexing new claims to previous claims until they might say that they meant to convert the cupper of your soul to gold. This is not part of their preliminary scheme for converting cheap and abandon metals to expensive and rare metals.
If you argue too much and transpire them they might poison you or electrocute you because they have leaned on the ruler phallus
Carlo DJ
Tell me something if you are Messiah. why people should not worship, I mean follow, the so-called Satan? Why people should follow Messiah?
Yanis
Go and follow Satan to see what happens. [It] does not ask you any worship. [it] only asks you to come and suffer messiah. Satan is death and annihilation and contradiction to existence. You or bill gate have only one asset in this world, it is you. Satan wants that asset. Then it remains nothing to worship the Satan or blaspheme [it]. Worship means building something. By that you exclude annihilation. Satan means annihilation. If you go to Satan then [it] remains nothing out of you to worship or otherwise.
Carlo DJ
It happened that I wrote about geeks and nerds and said if they do not continue to make bombs or missiles then the 'fat well paid sane people' decide that those dorks should need some rest in a bright dull place, and they have every evidence from observations of normal people. Later, I noticed that an imposturous comment had been put there. How cliché it is that the loony believed that he was rocket scientist and his temperature showed a fever in the mind and making a beam to evaporate the UN.
I never said I could make rockets or these things. I only can tell to other people how they can follow steps to be able to do that. And I cannot do that at home. I should be affiliated to a vast organization. Even I waive all of these arts. The only art that I have is recognition of pathological science. Impostor knows, "He knows; he knows" that from the first day that I noticed the wriggling of the carcass of Satan on the earth, and I was thirty-three at that time I only was vehement about pathological science. When they threw me out on the instruction of 'dadjjal' they mocked me that I only was able to teach communication skills. Yes, it was my other art, too, perhaps.
Summing up, I am only skilled in recognition of pathological science.
Carlo DJ
Now, listen to this story to learn more about the Satan. Now it is possible that if someone loses his heart they replace it. What is bad about it? Nothing! It makes your life longer. Well, it has not details of the original heart. For example you do not enjoy exercise. You do not have blood pressure and feedback to your mind in that sense. Exercise is fight with death. You already had lost that fight. It is better, notwithstanding, than being all dead. But don’t worry Herr Sinclair. Sooner or later they will be able to clone your heart with all of its nerves in-place. They put a seed there and it grows into your genetically natural heart. They do it though it takes one hundred years from now. In nineteen oh six university professor of fluid dynamics were teaching their students that if a train gets a speed more than one hundred and forty miles the air inside the wagons would vacuum out and nobody survives. Therefore they believed no machine could fly due to the fact that it should accelerate to two hundred kilometres per hour and air vacuum kills any passenger. Now it has passed one hundred years and millions are flying everyday.
They will do that ‘in-place’ cloning with other parts of your body. What if your head explodes on your way to holiday on mars? Then you are beyond economic repair. The solution exists. From the time that you are born from the incubator a small chip transmits, uploads, all your moment-by-moment experience of life to a secure centre to be kept on a yottabyte simcard. That simcard is ‘you’! If something happens to your brain, they clone all of ‘you’ and download your ‘you’ from your simcard to your brain and you restart from the moment after brain death. You even have the experience of the moment of that accident. Well, they do it say in one thousand year from now, but they do it. Then why do you need any ‘body’ at all? You can remain a simcard forever and inside that create books and planets and galaxies and population and friends and get energy from sunshine and leave forever. You can create images of simcards who like caricatures believe that they exist and can walk and have philosophical minds and while they are just passing of humble photonic pulses or what I may call it in future in your simcard they figure out big pictures about creation and aims of their supposed universe. How they can wake up from that horror, their nightmare. They should see if one of them suffers from living in panopticon. When they understand what is the forbidden fruit; what is the meaning of “I know; I know!”
Carlo DJ
From ancient Greek drama writers to modern sci fi writers many have approached this idea. "you are not wrong that the life is a dream in dream". O'Henry perhaps.Or living in a virtual reality without knowing that you are the virtual reality. There is nothing to save you even kicking a stone.
Yanis
"O God can I not save
"One from pitiless wave?"
Only saviour can save.
Carlo DJ
It is said that there is or there has been a separate low for psychosis happening to a member of parliament in this country. One said, “Thanks God that law never used in one hundred and fifty years of its enforcement!”
If psychosis was an illness then that should happen frequently to certain sample of this group. I am not sure if I am concise in my recollection of the story. I wrote this pedestrian note until later. It goes with the story of cubby people that already I mentioned. Perhaps later I can expand it.
Carlo DJ
It is because only sane and mentally healthy people can climb that ladder.
Yanis
Yes, they wash their brain with their hairs everyday as a matter of hygien of brain. That keeps them sane and healthy.
Carlo DJ
Well, if it is correct, that differentiation can help to define what is the mental health. When you are like a member of parliament then you are healthy.
That illness happens to actors, artists, teachers, oohm; I have no clue about the relation of job, age, gender, wealth, and other factors to psychosis. I never had time for such research. I was busy playing with my testicles. I believed only in Mendeleev when he said, "This element exists in nature in that type of rocks and you should separate it with this methods. It precipitates in this colour!"
Well, one should not deal with humans like metals.
Carlo DJ
The last comment also helped us to understand what is the difference of alchemy and chemistry. One endlessly argues and shifts its objectives and its universe of discourse and the other is just doing a humble job, well defined and clear-cut from other neighbouring jobs.
That does not mean that alchemists are bad people or have bad ideas or they are dangerous. No, as far as that they do not become militant and try to put you in the chain to fulfil their alleged characteristic demand; whatever it is. One excuse that they had, as I read, was that if somebody unwashed after his intercourse was around could corrupt their experiment.
Carlo DJ
Another branch of human activity, which is of my interest, is astrology. These two, alchemy and astrology, are very related to my discussion, as I already hinted. An astrologer also has objects in his argument that have been subject of modern scientific investigations. An astrologer could learn and know everything about details of structure of stars and planets and intimidate you by using those jargons. None of these help him to be scientific in his astrology. For his astrology he assumes that stars are gathered in constellations and moving the planets on the supposed positions of those constellations have some effect on your hourly and daily life and whatever you are destined to. According to science they are very remote objects and even they do not related to each other except for naked eye in an ad hoc arrangement for a primitive classification. And if you use astronomy or astrophysics, you can create any generalisation out of those configurations to apply for any similar configuration.
If you study brain and nerves system, or watch the alleged regions of activity, say activity during a game, which is the resultant of two vectors acting on your mind, being in the mri tube and doing a game, then you cannot decide what is going on in your mind. Astrology, and those scientific look-a-like activities are good for earning money and peacefully living in society on the condition that you do not decide to put weak, innocent people in shackle or trafficking people from the third world to be used as slave guinea pigs.
Carlo DJ
"Human nature is not a machine to be built after a model, and set to do exactly the work prescribed for it, but a tree, which requires to grow and develop itself on all sides, according to the tendency of the inward forces which make it a living thing."
J.S.Mill
"You have heard what the devil can do of himself, now you shall hear what he can perform by his instruments, who are many times worse (if it be possible) than he himself, and to satisfy their revenge and lust cause more mischief; much harm had never been done, had he(the Satan) not been provoked by witches to it."
Robert Burton on Cause of Melancholy
Burton quotes the above from Thomas Erastus, who was equivalent of Thomas Szasz in Renaissance.
Carlo DJ
Another point I liked to mention was the case of a 'schizophrenic' discussed in parliament when there were talks about the bill that should cover the mentally ill. One lady said that she saw a schizophrenic in her office and talked with him and he looked very sane and calm, but the very next she met him again and she couldn't believe that this was the same person. He was agitated and talking all nonsense. Hence, the lady decided that mentally ill people are very unpredictable and that is why they say that lunatics are dangerous and should be under detention. That reminded me the movie The scissors (1991). The psychiatrist who had created a mini panopticon for the victim to change her to a full frenzy lunatic, pointing to hallucinating victim, said to his wife, "Whom people are going to believe; that one or me?" Already I said that this cliché "Whom people will believe" has been so used by the psychiatry institutions and as much it is eroded that even the defenders of lunatics do not use and have not courage to implement it further. It is interesting that psychiatry has prostituted even your defence of lunatics beforehand. This is what essentially means by the word 'pervert'.
One couldn't use a case in two meeting to generalise it to millions of population on the earth. Somebody should be surprisingly uneducated to use her lay observation as foundation to legislation, which should cover the most generalised factual situations. But some interested people have done research and scrutinized that in average mentally ill are not much more dangerous than the other people and those episodes are within the margin of safety and other people might experience it in road rage and fight for women or reaction to pranksters or as we saw in an episode of 'Frasier', for the parking ticket Enemy at the Gate (Oct 2002).
Carlo DJ
The other story I ran into belonged to an American gentleman who has been recovered by using coercing traditional psychiatry and medicine from paranoia schizophrenia. Among his story written on the Internet. He describes a situation when he was studying fractals in college. It is a hard mathematics subject to grasp. At that time he had the feeling that he would do some important work, later in life, in the field of mathematics or physics and he was feeling so important that he was dealing and grasping fractals. Well, it is like that when anybody studies in college and in particular when he studies fractals and similar things. But when you are old you always believe you have not done anything important since either you are humble or you actually have not done anything important. The feeling of the college lad is not the sign of paranoia and the latter is not the sign of depression. Only psychiatrist in the world is always happy of his achievement. He has hands full: two in the claws and two in the fangs.
Carlo DJ
I couldn't get what you mean. I couldn't find cohesion in your above comment. Then what?
Yanis
I mean perhaps the poor lad was wrongly labelled with the vague schizophrenic paranoid label. He had bee just another bright college student. It is not a disease.
Carlo DJ
I wrote many pieces here that I believed they were boiling from my suffered heart. I understood that perhaps most of them were repeats of other people findings; some of them sane and well educated some just insane people with personal experience. I got many of them by examining the work of others. The works that have been part of me such that I couldn't recognize the origin that if they are my mind or if memory of my mind. As usual I never was keen to say that others have the similar ideas. It is like Jesus who did not write the Old Testament, but only endorsed it as genuine. Mo-hammad endorsed both Old and New Testament, but believed they were partly not genuine and wrote his own version regarding those parts. Will Durant believed witting gospels at the time of four famous ones, became an intellectual fashion. It was on the air. When I understand others also understand. But during these humble writings there has been occasions that I have heard my independent understanding acknowledged by a professional all the time researching well educated well-accepted person. One was when I wrote about Gandhi and Nobel peace prize. I said the spokeswoman of the committee for awarding that prize in interview with dnn believed Ghandi was a terrorist who did not deserve according to committee to receive that prize. Yesterday when they gave that prize to the gentleman (and I have not the faintest idea about him except his name; I am completely unaware of many things that happens in this world but might watch snookers in TV for days long without watching the news), A gentleman, a decent well researching judge, with very eloquent language that I like, said that this prize is not more respectable than euro-vision now-a-days. I forget to say that when the lady was asked about the prize for Gandhi in that dnn report, her face was twitched in sudden rush of anger. That Gandhi being a terrorist reminded me of the wars in the movie Lord of the Rings when the burning of the rain forests are attributed to “niagaras” who become vanquished at the end by the “non-niagaras”.
There was another important character in that movie: that golem. [It] is keen of having the ring in any price. That monster character is hidden from the people, those two young gentlemen, from the Shires (?). They do not figure out what other capacity that thing can have. Look at it; it is like the twin of ‘The Thing’ that I have seen. It has some owner to feed and take [it] along. The golem plotting and plotting to get in this world what that makes the world useless. If everybody becomes an obedient robot and you have all the gold, then to whom you want to rule. “No, we haven’t done anything to be afraid; let them check and check; it is for our safety; it is funny, just like TV show big brothers that baboons masturbate in front of camera.” Golem shows the way to you. Those two should ask themselves besides showing the way what other capacity that Thing should have. You should push [it] into the flowing lava to get rid of [its] plot.
Carlo DJ
I believe book originally had not such a connotation of contrasting humans. Movie perhaps has introduced this. perhaps inadvertently
Yanis
Yanis, I frequently get the idea that you do not come around anymore.
Carlo DJ
I have the same idea about you.
Yanis
No, I do not stop.
Another thing I said and then found confirmation was when I said the Ahriman machination in creating the panopticon and [its] other machinations to be used by human is a self-destroying device for the users. It is a countdown toward annihilation with a smile on the face of perpetrator. In the 1974 movie by Francis Coppola, the Conversation, Mr Caul the successful and professional wiretapper fell in the trap of his own instrumentation. He was a professional unidentified by his targets. They didn’t know he was watching. They couldn’t approach him asking him to stop intervening in their lives. His customers were legally bound not to mention his service or reveal his identification even if summoned by a court and other the oath. They just knew those information out of the blue not through him. He had a job licence allowing him to do his job. He enjoyed, laughing to his targets. He was bound by the ethics of his job in not revealing anything about his clients. I used the word naked, if you can remember. I said that Adam and Eve felt naked after having the forbidden fruit, after being able to know. Mr Caul, the bugger, the wiretapper at the end was trapped in his own device, when he destroyed his own house – it was his home, he was playing sax there – with his own hands. Nobody flooded his home. No miraculous prophet godly power was necessary to revenge or punish him. He (emphasise) did it. He sat there continued playing his sax, but not in a home, but among his own rubbles.
Hence, Coppola had my idea in a rough, political setting. With a nice breeze helping him, he can fly to my heights.
Carlo DJ.
My other speculation was effect of earning in agreement of mental health people including social workers in coercing mentally ill in the so-called treatment given to them. I was explaining it when I was discussing the submission of a crowded amalgamate of nurses and psychologists and social workers occupation therapist to lobby their rights for being allowed to incarcerate the trapped, horrified mentally ill. Now I understood that even a nurse with some training could earn up to hundred k.
Carlo DJ
I couldn't understand the previous one. I mean why repeating some parts of yourself in a narative quoting.
Yanis
That submission, specially employing a legal expert to prove that human rights actually have been written to defend the material interests of mental health professionals. As if, you believe that schools have been created and their goal is to employ teachers, particularly teachers for brownies. And then they have involved their important trade unions. Why a trade union may become involved in mental health and mental illness. They have not any notion about people become crazy. They have been told that what happens if some people lose their job or their wage become affected due to a law and they have the verdict of a counsellor. We say one who goes alone to a judge wins the case. Hence, I wrote that there is not interest of customers in the legislation and all the lip services about customers means teachers of brownies.
The other thing is that if I independently create a theory and find it consistent with many diverse observations then I am on a good track.
I am defending something very grandiose and strange to believe. I should prove that I am not liar and have no interest and benefit to make that story and it is good if you and other people believe it.
Carlo DJ
Lunatics make stories that do not have interest and benefit in making them. This is a good criteria for lunacy.
Yanis
Yes, but it could be very useful to listen to them. You can remember I said, and by now many agree with me, it is like when the man used to shout, "Wolf!" People now believe that it is correct to check every time if the shout is valid or not.
Now, leave it for later. You can believe or not believe. It all depends on you. Some people won’t believe if it is possible to go to moon. What I said, that coercion in psychiatry here in the West, is all about the earning and not giving the service is a well established fact and that prevents liberal competition that brings fresh ideas and talents to this melancholic discipline of human activity. That is big difference even with horoscope writing. Since there, too, people who cannot keep them on the competitive edge will be eliminated easily from the market.
My account of the cave-in submission given by the amalgamation of therapists and their trade union and their shyster was so amazingly correct, especially their imaginary patient who should pass courses under the police coercion in analyse therapy and pro-social behaviour and occupation therapy and, as I suggested in my humble logic course, and getting PhD in insightfulness was so humiliatingly concise that forced [The Impostor] to over-react by creating a machine-created delirium as the last submission to parliament about an imaginary autistic that should be scraped and dissected to prevent him from hack, by a very competent method of observing and assessing and treating and follow up and efficacy and publishing and reviewing and going to conferences and deleting the human subject meanwhile, and forgetting years that passes over the individual – well, patient is name of the kind and lives forever, except that we mean, as I said, patients who are patiently waiting back there and are flicking through the catalogues for new purchases.
Now, I am in a position to detail some of my previous concise hypothesises. First, I do a brief review. I wrote a part of the story of St Julian here, because my family name is diJuliani. DJ stands for that. I meant sometimes in the wreckage of a body, such as Stephen Hawking who behaves in an antisocial manner because he had an illness when young, you can find a rose garden if you allow him to come to your social. Now, I state some wild, say paranoid assumptions that Professor Phil Barker knew that I was the same person who sent an email to him, say declaring himself as similar to Jesus Christ and surprisingly beforehand he knew that I want to put that piece of Flaubert's here on the Blog and I assume he or somebody else for him spoiled the beauty and effectiveness of putting that story here beforehand. (I said that [The Antichrist] and [The Impostor-Christ] precede Jesus Christ to neutralise effectiveness of his speech. His speech is nothing serious, except that He wants to inform people about such being as [The Antichrist] and the ability of [The Antichrist] to read the mind of human and inflict pain on human remotely. Miracle of Jesus is that He forces these two beings to do that job themselves and prove the claim of Jesus by actually showing that they are right about knowing the mind and the next move of Jesus Christ. This proves that Jesus Christ does not lie about himself. Nothing else in the life of Jesus is relevant to this experience and society deals with those things in other people in other ways different with dealing with Messiah. Messiah is carved out of the society by His antagonist, which is unique and can precede attendance of Jesus in any social activity (including jail, prosecution, anything). Even in philosophy we say we know the objects by their contradictions. Thousands messiahs come and go without being known. They are anchors of the vessel. They are not the one on the helm, the navigator. They are pegs of the tent, not the pole, because they are not acompanied by [The AntiChrist]. Hence Jesus is not liar or storyteller by witness of its contrast with the darkness of abyss who precedes him everywhere.
(This is true about other Abraham prophets and out of that we know Zoroastar and Buddha.)
This action of [The Twins] is apocalyptic, that is, it is omen of incoming darkness. Later, always Jesus Christ shows that their action had been something self-betraying and hasty, impatient act for [The Twins]. This demonstration by Christ is messianic, that is, it is compensation of darkness created in the global mind of human being by [The Twins of Darkness]).
Professor Barker, I assume, perhaps wrote few comments based on assumptions that psychiatrists have about lunatics that they need some spoon-feed or poking or even jabbing to become involved in dialogue narration of their story which he and many others and even I know it therapeutic for lunacy, and he tried to introduce me on the stage and leave me to perform without creating a bound or disturbance effect. I believe this is not correct. I did not need this service and perhaps his knowledge available on the Internet, could come very useful for me. With or without poking I had to write all these and publish them by the means, which is possible now a day for everybody. He talked to me directly once and asked me if I meant a symbol by salmons. All you read from prophets and philosophers and poets and writers and mathematician and physicists and others are symbols but not what a prophet tells directly to his contemporaries. They are hard material reality of the world. And lo and behold down there I can see the symbols in their real contents. Read what I have written if it looks like any philosophy or theology or sci-fi or any biography. It looks chaotic and nonsense, but still informative and fresh.
In places I had to propagate some information. One point was criticise the idea that schizophrenics are some type of primate more evolved than chimps but not as much as a non-schizophrenic human and they have defected genes related to language that meagre their words repository in their brain and that professor was searching for them with the help of electron microscope and MRI until becomes retired to Spain or Florida. My position in criticising him was like him. He never had time to talk with schizophrenic or chase any facts about them but out of being a genius had a very pompous propositions. I, also out of being mesiah could find out where he got that idea: from Bernstein theory in sociology that was a compulsory part of education during his school days. I even could guess his age and his o-level subjects, just out of blue. Then somebody came along. A nutty survivor who was nutty; meant that he was anti-psychiatry and mad-pride and hence calls him a nutty and he is a survivor; that is, he is trustable by lunatics and customer services. But he could not pretend or find a way to write and hide in that way. He betrayed himself as a full-blood pedigree of bestial psychiatry in this sentence:
“The question then is what you do with those who are a danger to themselves or others; or who behave in an antisocial manner when ill.” And in continuation:
“Is a criminal record better than a history of having been sectioned? Having experienced the violence and degradation of my local psychiatric ward, I think I'd rather be in prison; but I'd rather have been sectioned than prosecuted.”
The first sentence is the code of practice of coercing psychiatry; lunatics kill others or kill themselves or they are crazy, and he has a question, with reasonable face of a mobster in power. He does not know what should be done with a killer who has not killed yet and has not such a plan yet but in future there is likeliness that he kills and loads of likeliness that won’t kill. He does not know what to do with a fifty five year old with obesity who has hypertension and do not take medicine and eats pork chop fried in lard with dip fried chips and four pints of lager, like Nero Wolf, who is self harming. After so much discussion in antipsychiatry and critical psychiatry, one who has come to this Blog and “kicks off” to argue with Phil Barker should have these rudiments sorted out. Except that he is [The Impostor] and has come here to harass me and annoy me to prevent me to deliver my message in the last place that I could find in this world.
Answer of Messiah to that question of “… what you do with those … “ is that those people have two heads one is [The Antichrist] who should be burnt at the dry stake to re-experience the searing horror of the creation of the universe, the cradle and growing place of man towards infinity, out of darkness anew and [The Impostor] who should be burnt at the wet stake to scare material world of hosting [him]. Others who collaborated with them in their antisocial and sociopath behaviour should eat flesh of Messiah and drink His blood to gain their human existence back. They are exonerated as Jesus said due to their diminished liability.They are minors cheated by the two-headed snake.
He also in arguing with me adds after my comment:
“I find the notion that toddlers can smoke and trade in cannabis or other drugs absurd. You do nothing to enhance your arguments by saying such things. Find me a toddler who can even count high enough to work out how much money to charge anyone, or one with sufficient manual dexterity to hold a cigarette long enough to smoke it without physical assistance. And how much harm can an angry toddler do? Not a lot at that age. An older child, maybe, but not a toddler.”
For the last two weeks [The Impostor] had blocked my Internet access. It is probable that [he] continues that practice again or decrypt my password machine or come to my home and steal it. So I write long whenever possible and in summing up manner. I continue messianic paraphrase of above sentences in next comments.
Carlo DJ
In previous comment I was opening the content of this paragraph I read here as addressing and arguing against my comment. If you can remember already I said that we could carve out three elements of satanic ritual of human sacrifice in this two comments. These two short paragraphs are very important for me since I have forced [The Impostor] to transpire himself without being alarmed. I opened some worldly meaning of “The question then is what you do with those who are a danger to themselves or others; or who behave in an antisocial manner when ill.” The writer uses the psychiatry law for justification of detention of people. The antipsychiatry has discussed all the details of this sentence. According to my grand unified theory this sentence means, "The ruler." just that! The next sentence says, “Is a criminal record better than a history of having been sectioned? ... prison; ... sectioned ... prosecuted.” This means, "phallus." Full stop! He deliberately uses prosecuted instead of persecuted.
Hence in this comment of "The Nutty Survivor" we recognize the first element; that is, "the phallus of ruler!" It is clear why a witch needs that to intimidate the victim. The victim is social and normal and within loyalty of social contract. It is the witch who wants to create chaos and upheaval in the society. He says that because you are on your control and your god character and you know that we are abusing the law so be frightened. This comes in the "I'd rather...I'd rather!" We said that autonomous altruistic character comes as navigating on the external instances of moral behaviours rather than conscience. Paragon of that instance is Messiah. [The Impostor] knows that such a character (e.g., Lord Jim, by Joseph Conrad) is not frightened of reparation and consequences of his offences or illness. If he offends he goes to prison. If he is ill he goes to doctor. So he is not under prosecution for offence or illness. It means that Messiah is not prosecuted for illness or danger to himself or others, since he'd rather and rather but the rule that is for everybody would not include him. In the book God says to Mo-hammad that while and in spite that everybody even animals are respected in that holy town, only Mo-hammad is permitted to be violated.
Therefore the witch tells to Messiah to stay there, immoveable by showing phallus of the ruler.
Why I paraphrased that little paragraph in that way? Since that sentence has not any meaning at all. It has not any semantic. Originally, it is from the mind of something between a chimp and a machine with no human communication facility for any imaginable application and purpose.
Carlo DJ
What is the difference between law and order and "the phallus of ruler" then?
Yanis
"It is hard to get a man to understand something if his living depends on him not understanding it." -Upton Sinclair
The difference is that between Socrate and baboon. Both are animals.
Carlo DJ
ps: Herbert Lionel Adolphus Hart (1907-1992)has reached by worldly treads to some neighbourhood of this messianic idea.
Now, keep it cool.
Yanis
So the phallus of ruler is for terrorizing purposes rather than regulating the social behaviour of human. Phallus is very important in explaining basic of many things. It doesn't mean male or female. It means body and mind connection. We said humans are pieces of a vase broken and in search of re-unification with each other, like pieces of jigsaw puzzle. That gravitation, I called the global mind. It is a place that keeps the blue print of the unification scheme. It is like plato idea: it is there but not there; you are there. But you are here not there. You are part and the whole. But not like ants. They are only parts. None of them is the whole. They are one step lower towards the material world.
Carlo DJ
You are belittleing ants. It is far from being Messiah
Yanis
All ants are part of us. We have them in our blood and in our flesh and in our minds. We take them with us. We decide not to live like ants in panopticon.
Carlo DJ
The next sentence4 of "The Impostor" that I continued to clarify is, "I find the notion that toddlers can smoke and trade in cannabis or other drugs absurd." This means that [he] cannot understand and is not a communicating object. It means language one-oh-one I mentioned already. We said one (perhaps an abused soul) who is traficking drugs and humans and is so skilled communicating through the borders and passing through dozen countries does not know English when become arrested. The lady who is an eloquent minister in night parties believes that human rights activist who defend the right of choice for the distressed people deny that the murderers and other offenders should go to prison or tolerate consequences of their offence. The spokewoman of Noble peace prize believes that Gandhi is a terrorist.
The sentence I quoted at the beginning just means that; the last assertion.
Carlo DJ
"The Impostor" in his comment to me also mentioned about "the violence and degradation of the local psychiatry ward" as a hint to something in neighbourhood near me. I have no answer for such things. Those violence and degradation at the end return to the perpetrators. I should not do anything to sort it out. It is like the Noah's flood. It is not water to the top of Everest. It is something local. If somebody contacts with “The Thing”, then he loses without anything else to be necessary to punish him. He becomes non-existent.
Carlo DJ
Then "The Impostor" continues, "Find me a toddler who can even count high enough to work out how much money to charge anyone, or one with sufficient manual dexterity to hold a cigarette long enough to smoke it without physical assistance." We explored the first element of satanic virtual of human sacrifice is showing the terrorising "phallus of ruler." And the second element is denial of erection of the victim- the Messiah. That quotation means that. He means that Messiah cannot erect but the rattlesnake can erect its tail to steal the existence of human race by poisoning them to see the dream of having the knowledge and eternity of god, supposedly. That snake only has poison and has no way to knowledge or eternity. Why? How messiah has not an erection? It is two thousand years people hang His phallus on their necks, on their standards, on their graves, above their beds, grasping it in pain and joy and disease and disaster and war and peace and marriage and festivity. Two thousand years is not long enough to smoke your humble cigarette?
Carlo DJ
Before continuing on that comment, I have a small story. In my place people believed it was against their religion to eat caviar. The reason was that in nineteenth century Tsars had monopoly over that production and to prevent poor producers to eat their own harvest they had influenced some religion leaders to spread that it was not allowed to eat caviar and they should send all the product to the stomach of Tsars and European aristocracy. Then recently after nineteen eighty when there was an economic sanction tons of caviar that should sell on grams left on the hands of producers. Hence they decided that from the first day it was not forbidden and it came into the local market with cheap prices. (After nineteen ninety mobsters also joined to harvesting irresponsibly that rare product and now it seems this other natural resource also becoming extinct). After that, somebody saw in his dream that he was visiting the hell. At the gate, he noticed a group of people were coming out carrying their suite-cases and very happy. The visitor asked his guide that who were those released people. Guide said that they were some caviar fishermen who had eaten their harvest and taken to hell for that. With the new law they have been absolved released. After passing the gate the visitor noticed another group with their luggage were sitting on the floor as if waiting. He asked the guide that now who were this second group. "They had only beers and now waiting for a law to come and release them." (Since beers also is subject of some controversy in the religion there.)
This is very related to that comment. It is twenty years that I hear that comment and I have paraphrased it in any conceivable context to find any alternative interpretation for that. They said it directly and indirectly through any agent who contacted with me that I cannot erect. First, I said to me that I was only cynical and self-accusing that interpret it in that way. Then they said it directly such that I become sure that they mean that I cannot erect. Then I gradually accepted that because of I was mentally ill they want to shock and awe me, similar to when they shock a hiccupping child by accusing him to theft. But if you notice that he does not stop or he understands that you are mocking, because you are a normal average person with human intelligence you do not continue your method due to its futility, since you know that human being should do something effective for each problem that he has in hand in an attempt to solve it. Years passed and I consistently heard that by any new contact. Meanwhile, I could, and if I had been left alone should have five children and according to some calculations I have produced at least one replica of myself for every being on the earth. And I do not understand in any context of human activity why society constantly for twenty years support someone to tell one person cannot erect. Except in the way that I interpreted as the second element of human sacrifice, three elements ritual. It is consistent with all the findings of anthropologists and also with Freud and Jung, as far as I know.
Carlo DJ
i couldn't catch what was related to the anecdote?
Yanis
In recent law that they have legislated in this country, the spirit of law is that the establishment should be able to arrest anyone by attaching any label of deviance to him. No exoneration, such as sexual behaviour or affiliation to political groups, is allowed to be imposed. Perhaps you can remember the deputy head teacher asked me what was my father's job and when I said he was deceased he slapped on my face. Already he had done it with a real naughty child of a police colonel or similar person without prior investigation and they had sorted him out. Hence, he was investigating each case beforehand to avoid himself being punished. Similarly, psychiatry investigates each case. If the person is a wealthy person, politically important, a judge or a 'Sir' or a newspaper, TV, lawyer, party and high rank trade union officer then the psychiatry has the face of Fraser’s, or Dr Phil: "Dear client you should enjoy your short life in any (emphasis begins) convenenient (emphasis ends) way that you like. You should not be bound to inhibitions and Victorian time moralities! You should not be inhibitionist, but should be exhibitionist!" But if the case is a young student who has started defending humanity by perhaps a little outrage, say similar to animal rights activists, then the psychiatrist puts the black cover over his head and sections the deviant. This is the law of that ferocious dog that eats the man when his owner unleashes him.
To begin this long chapter, let me tell you the story of "Goldie." In this city that I am, kind of, living, a group of professional ladies (I mean prostitutes. I always feel very sympathetic towards them with feeling of them being normally abused, but my attitude could be politically wrong according to certain schools of thoughts) went to court against their employing agency (pimping enterprise). The agency charge customers for (or perhaps from) one hundred and twenty pounds but pays the service provider girls only (perhaps at most) sixty pounds. (Hence the pimp receives sixty pounds an hour twice the amount they used to pay me at the university just next door to them.) Among the powerful elements of the agency, the plaintiff’s counsellor talking against is a ‘nymphomania’ lady, forty six year old who is very keen of adolescent and young adult boys, and she is of much interest of many customers of the agency among them many barristers, the list is not exhaustive, judges, …ohm, at this point the counsellor adds, “not any of those in this court!” Perhaps he notices that the description of Goldie makes the mouths of judges water. Or perhaps they catch that they are among the customers or future customers or craving customers of Goldie. Now if the Goldie becomes poor and old then the assertive team of borough psychiatry would be at her door for sexual misconduct. I used the ‘nymphomania’ since this disease now has been exonerated by DSM as an illness of soul or mind or brain and already lobotomised or ected or drugged or psychoanalysed or occupation therapied patients have been released from the psychiatry hell. Still, psychiatry can easily put them in the jacket. Psychiatry is Satan and can generate any allegation and it is its own judge. If Goldie cannot continue to entertain barristers and judges and MP’s they say Goldie nymphomania is comorbid with some invisible symptoms of depression and mania and bipolar activity and endless attributions. They claim her detention is not, solely because of her sexual conduct. But that behaviour or manner is the sign of something deep inside her that makes her danger and risk to society. Every story that we start is a stream that ends to the ocean of Messiah. Only He has suffered every cruelty that man has done to man. Later we find out how.
Carlo DJ
Tonight is the birthday party of my daughter. She is now eighteen. Psychiatry, now can adopt her without her parents permission. After we had her first year birthday party that we had loads of guests, I never appeared in any of her birthdays. Otherwise her party would be changed to a commotion of people talking nonsense cues and dirty attributions. I couldn't allow that happens. I could not make a video for the same reason that in the background people would shout cues and dirty hints. I paid, in one of the occasions of her birthday parties when she was little, to Judy and Punch entertainers and video people to come to the party then on instruction of 'The Thing' they made a stupid boring story, instead of real children entertainment and fouled the party such that I catch cues. I had to ask them to put music on that part of their talks. My little daughter was crying asking me why. I couldn't tell her that it was because they were raping her father with the phallus of ruler. They were raping her by cheating her. They were raping my wife, her mother, who has to go everywhere alone like a widow. My little lass has got a boy in her dream. She recently has got the permission that they are allowed to talk in her room. Her mother and I were sitting in the next room. My daughter's voice was sweat as baklavas, full of shame and girlish innocence odour. The boy shouting some cues about me. He was instructed and he was not even a bit fresh and excited being with my daughter. He raped me instead of grabbing the hand of my daughter. They do not allow the little whore to entertain. They need her for satanic ritual of human sacrifice.
Carlo DJ
What Could I give for my daughter birthday; I wondered. I cannot go to a shop or buy anything for her. I remembered when she was little and used to make cards for my birthday. I was searching for some star gazing data. It took me to an astrologist site. Their presentations were based on the famous nasa data of sky from six thousand years ago to six thousand years ahead. You give your hour and place and date of your birth and they produce a free account of your personality based on the astrology. That could bring a smile for my daughter. I prepared it and changed the fonts to a nice ornamental handwriting. Now, it was in four pages with a coloured astrolabe of her birth data. But I could not print things using ink bought by girls. Hence, I saved the work and asked her to come and see it on the screen.
Carlo DJ
After that I decided to see what they say about my own story. I gave place, date and time of my birth. I couldn't believe the conciseness of their account.
"You like new ideas and concepts, but you prefer to discover them by yourself -- it is not easy for others to convert you to anything… . You have a deep and abiding interest in science, mathematics, and the great social problems of the day. Very sympathetic toward the downtrodden, equality is your battle cry! You demand that those in authority be fair to all. You are an intellectual -- emotions and emotional people are difficult for you to understand. You are known for being calm, cool, detached and objective…. Very theatrical, you live life on a grand scale wherever and whenever possible. Your strength and energy vitalizes those who come in contact with you.”
It was startling. I started to catch as if they knew me and were instructed. I became interested to do some more investigation. Suddenly I fell out of laughter. I had made a mistake. Alas, I wish it were mine. In converting the calendar I had entered the wrong month. It was personality of another person. When I entered the correct month, the result did not meet my expectations and looked completely strange.
Carlo DJ
Perhaps, you were born in that month actually. Perhaps, You have not a correct account of your personality and on delusion has accepted and embrace the grandeur of the first account and has rejected the second real one because it looked humble and far from your imaginary self?
Yanis
Say some more of that kind of stuff.
Carlo DJ
You should not escape the reality by using sarcasm.
Yanis
I promise I won't. If you can talk more like that you become something that is of high demand on all societies from ancient time to now.
By saying those things I'll be able to buy a birthday card for my daughter but by listening to them I cannot. And that makes all the differences between one who can and one who cannot.
Anyway, after her birthday another Christmas came by. Now it is the eighteenth Christmas from the time that they officially started to cure me or treat me, to change me to a mentally healthy and as they said at the beginning to change me from an idiot to a wise person. And one day if I can take them to a court they would say stuff like what you said.
And I did not lose my enthusiasm to fight back, yet. As usual, I took my old fashioned dark suite that smells a little mothball a little light petrol and a little of an aftershave out. I put on a well-kept shirt and an old fashioned tie, one I bought from Tesco clearance for a pound seven years ago. I pretended that I was a living dadi and took as usual lonely pictures with these two wretchedly condemned poor souls without anybody around to take a three persons picture of us.
Carlo DJ
Now, we can return back to our account of the impostor comment: “Find me a toddler who can even count high enough to work out how much money to charge anyone, or one with sufficient manual dexterity to hold a cigarette long enough to smoke it without physical assistance." How, one can prove that by this [he] means that Messiah cannot erect.
In 2004 version of Starsky and Hutch, Starsky uses the counselling of a psychiatrist to count as much as possible to increase his record time of erection and he counts up to thirty-three. The director wants to mock the psychiatry for its hilarious advice.
In fact the late famous British positivist psychologist believes contrary to that one should not think about these macho’s views and he says that discipline of psychology and psychiatry thereafter is like a blind that guides another blind, without having even the most rudiment knowledge to have any advice.
Now assuming that one does not erect or keep it for sufficient time and “you know it- you know it.” If some has not a leg should a doctor mock him? Mocking brings leg to somebody, even if it continues for twenty years? Law allows you to constantly humiliate him and use it as a blackmail to justify unlawful detention and trafficking?
In contrast, we said that Messiah can definitely erect and can keep it for thousands years.
Zoroaster fire was the source of any hearth in any house in ancient time. Erection of Messiah is the source of erection of any being on the earth. This is the meaning of sacrifice of Jesus. When he suffered that any creature to get bless.
Carlo DJ
I, couldn't catch clearly.
Yanis
Yes, during this new year of oh eight I am going to explain further.
Carlo DJ
Now, I am celebrating this number: eight, eight, eight, oh eight.
Carlo DJ
I had to turn off media player to allow cpu to upload the last comment. It was playing "strawberry fields are forever."
the last comment was number 888 three infinity up standing and I meant it to be at the beginning moments of this year 2008.
Carlo DJ
Last year we got to issue of co morbidity and said first they investigate if you are rich or famous or influential. If you are n one of those categories then your conduct, whatever it is, is cool, or extrovert or a sign of ingenuity, or counter-inhibition, or sophisticatedly crazy and odd or funny, or rebellious and in the worst case scenario they send Dr Phil to you. Otherwise, your signs are comorbid with something dangerously psychotic illness deep down that has been manifested as those symptoms. And again all these depend to many other random things such as, who might examine you and where and when you are being examined. They say, for example, Dr Samuel Johnson had some weird symptoms known as ticks. Now those symptoms have been exonerated as mental illness. Still, they look if you can write dictionary then those symptoms are not of any significance. But out of hundred people with those symptoms in a given period of time only one can write a dictionary and it is a great, unusual achievement that become known when you are fifty. The other ninety-nine people’s symptoms are comorbid. If you died in lunatic house and then they bought your paintings one million dollar then your symptoms are signs of being a genius and they are sorry for inconvenience created in your life. Otherwise, your odd behavior is anti-social manner and you should be terminated like a sick dog.
The reason as we said earlier, that Messiah brings back or victims of cruelty to life to finish their destined life, is to allow them to prove their claim. Perhaps they take you to lunatic hospital with symptoms of Dr Johnson when you are in twenties and leave you to go to nursing home when you are seventy. But if they had not taken you there you could start study, while shaking and everybody escaping from your odd behavior, and could write a dictionary or do nice paintings when you were fifty. That right has been taken from you.
These assertions have been observed all in this world of extreme communication. An example is the lady who is living in New Zealand and has been deprived from her life for fifty years as being a schizophrenic.
I can remember when it was a time that being gay was comorbid with being an odd mentally ill, potentially a murderer or pedophile or suicidal. Actually anything could happen due to persecution and lack of self-assertion.
Perhaps some people can remember the British TV series 'Crime of Passion' many decades ago. There was a case of killing of a transvestite by his wife. The wife had caught him when he was putting on a female dress and later when he wanted to assert himself to make love with the woman she had killed him. Then jury decided that the wife was not guilty in killing the man. Of course, that drama at that time, similar to this time TV show ‘Big brother’ had been created to quench the endless thirst of people to watch sex materials. They were curious to see what type of animal is a transvestite. To support the public moral, meanwhile the man got what he deserved and was killed in the episode. It was shown that the man who always was calm and timid could suddenly show a lot of violence, and was attacking as if wanted to rape his wife- his transvestite conduct was comorbid. If like modern Britain he could assert his fancy in practicing transvestite, that crime would never happen.
‘The Impostor’ who is the enemy of humanity, upon the first encounter on the Internet, hastily has poured out allegations about sexual conduct of Messiah. Just like the story of that lady mentioned above to justify her crime. It is the second element of apocalypse in denying erection of Messiah.
By the way, I mentioned writing dictionary. I had drafted writing a dictionary of English language for a special need of learners of a second language. But, I gradually, am losing any capacity. Tonight, I attempted to go out for petrol, I noticed that still, ‘The Impostor’ again has arranged the same stupid operations of five, ten, twenty years ago in trying to engage me with stupid people. Somebody should come ahead and investigate.
Carlo DJ
Yes, and I was about to offer it Mollins dictionary publisher.
Carlo DJ
I was following what is the meaning of comorbid, when I understood that if I have a prolapsed disk it is not comorbid with my stomach ulcer. They are differentiated through clear cuts. On the other hand I noticed that Dr House TV show is all about signs and symptoms that at first sight is diagnosed something, but actually very finely, at the end of the show, could be differentiated with drastically something else. I do not know what is the terminology for this fine separation, and that coarse clear cut between two malfunctioning. I understand that medicine is much about this. Among ordinary people it is believed, and in House show it confirms that most of doctors act like colleagues of Dr House and do not fine tune their diagnosis that surely could become fine tuned and search for hidden variables and alternative interpretations. For those clear-cut diseases, also doctors are supposed to follow treatments for one disease that does not aggravate the other illnesses. This is for medicine. Now, I became very interested to understand what is Tourette syndrome as a mental illness or whatever. I found a path to the association of users and carers (including doctors) of this so-called disease or behaviour or antisocial manner, whatever it is. At first it looked informative. It started with defining what it is. Then it started to become disorganised. Everything could accompany it, including all the mental illnesses that I am familiar with. The most valuable information was that it does not kill the patient. Somehow I am sure that if I search the literature, there are cases that has killed the patient. For example, an armed mobster might think that you are insulting him and shoot you. About your condition, it starts to sooth you that it is not something important and you should not bother much then gradually you understand that people might beat you in the shop or street and you should carry an id card showing you are suffering from that disease and you do not mean any harm or insult. For cure, it says that there is no cure or much treatment for this condition but has promised that "they" are looking for the specific gene creating this condition and soon the answer will be found. He says medication is very helpful but immediately adds that those drugs have side effects (here the writer shows some Tourette syndrome himself). Non-drug treatments include everything from aromatherapy to karate. In one of the teachers' website, I read the case of a teacher who was showing signs of wrongly interpreted as exhibitionist-scopophilic similar to Tourette syndrome, due to neurotic burn out, so I added that, too, to my knowledge of this disease. That is, I am still without any specific scientific knowledge. Well, I am lay. If I was a doctor, I had studied structure of brain and nervous system and through biochemistry; I knew a lot of intervention of molecules in functions of body. These are common between human and animals. But animals do not have Tourette syndrome. Perhaps I had examined, talked with and chased and harassed many of such patients and could get more clues. One remedy, I could find is that if you could even one person in the world of all so-called normal people who can tolerate a Tourette syndrome person only for two hours, without believing that he himself is indifferent or magnanimous or generous or courageous or any other feedback then you understand that Tourette syndrome is not reciprocal, and is in genes and nerves. One application of the court of 'Goldie' I mentioned earlier is here. The counselor had not courage to pass over the phrase 'judges' as customers of 'Goldie' without excluding the people in the court. All of them were hinting to each other by their antennas coming from oceans and ants and big bang and other places. They are sharing the global mind of humans through that. It is not in the brain and flesh. It is in the local mind and in the global mind. When the vase breaks at the beginning, it establishes and dictates a certain list of laws to nature that should be obeyed when you are putting pieces back together. That law is not visible anywhere to make you able to search for it and find it and prove it. The law is carried by each piece and exists only for all parts together. It is local and it is global. It carries its own clues for its deciphering with itself and none of the pieces can decipher it alone or become aware that it exists and can evade it.
Messiah is the image of the vase.
Carlo DJ
My study of Tourette syndrome gave that lesson to me that there is definitely an illness, according to psychiatrists, called Tourette syndrome such that the affected person and others understand its existence, but that illness have not any certain description to become uniquely identified and has not any known source of causation and has not any definite known treatment or cure or management or method of coping and alleviation and it is not known whether it can prevent or it spurs a fruitful or otherwise a miserable life. It is only known that it causes other people who pass and enter within a certain proximity to the so-called ill person receive wrongly interpreted signals from the transmitting source (or patient). And those interpretations are most of the time against the attitude of the inflicted person.
Hence you should use Shannon theory of communications to understand that disease. Now you can remember I said at the very beginning comments that this disease is somewhere but not in brain and flesh of inflicted person. It is in the channel not in the sender or receiver. Is this bizarre and contrary or what was said about this disease by psychiatrists?
Carlo DJ
I said I was studying Tourette syndrome on the American website officially created for patients of this syndrome. And at first paragraphs it seemed that the material was giving some concise real knowledge to the reader. Then it starts to become disorganised and disintegrated. You notice that you cannot go further beyond that there is a title for a group of people who look weird and that is all. And you cannot say if this person who is annoyingly weird is any different with other annoying people.
Before that I said that I read my horoscope and at first I believed that it concisely describes my personality, then I noticed that I mistakenly was reading horoscope of another sign, not belonging to me. When I continued further reading of that horoscope then that too, was like description of Tourette syndrome. It started to become disorganised and disassociated from any thread or backbone of discourse. You were at the same time, kind and vengeance, loving and hating: a cafeteria buffet that you can help yourself depending on your taste.
Astrologer, now a day do not believe that he should take the destiny of you and your family in their hands, though at certain stage of history they had such a power. psychiatry is an offshoot of their collegiate.
Carlo DJ
Now assume that your life falls in the hands of somebody with that kind of disassociated insight about the reality of the world. In the hands of somebody who talks for twenty years, keep repeating a limited vocabulary of obscenity like this, “I find the notion that toddlers can smoke and trade in cannabis or other drugs absurd. You do nothing to enhance your arguments by saying such things. Find me a toddler who can even count high enough to work out how much money to charge anyone, or one with sufficient manual dexterity to hold a cigarette long enough to smoke it without physical assistance. And how much harm can an angry toddler do? Not a lot at that age. An older child, maybe, but not a toddler.” And has the power of punishing you by punishing your wife and your children. In the case of honourable Deputy-Sister Linda Bigwood in 'THE KERR-HASLAM INQUIRY' she was a mentally healthy person and familiar with all the ploys of psychiatry in calling their opponent as a bunch of lunatics. Still, she had been cornered and isolated by a couple of psychiatrists for twenty years. They didn’t allow her even to find or pursue a job decent for her level of achievements. They were only a couple of people using a social network, mostly official, a little unofficial, to nail down their former colleague, not in a hospital or in a small village or in a town, but in a vast county among millions of people who were moving around her. What could happen if they had some level of legal law enforcement and legal access over her? Who could believe otherwise, if she had had a harmless tick or nervousness? Nobody, then, would pay attention to the truth of her story. At the end what could she do to the imbecile old devil hearts that had devastated her life?
Carlo DJ
The humble product of that horoscope or similar comments in the explanation of your mental condition, or behaviour or personality is called "insight", by creators of those comments. It means that for a moment, you wrongly believe that by coincidence, its a cue related to you. Then you say to yourself, "It is I. It is not I. It is I. It is not I!" It is what you get.
Now, I have seen in my former country and perhaps in this country, that palmistry and fortune tellers and similar entities have devastated many lives, specially in the realm of family relationship and love when simple hearted people were involved. If they had power over the victims, they could go and tell the victim, "We have destroyed your life and family and hope and joy and everything you had, and left a wreckage of everything for you!” What the victim might say? He says to himself if he denies he can pretend that he had been the winner. So he denies and becomes angry inside then he has to pretend more to cool out himself. Then gradually accept that that destiny should be done to him and won’t or can’t complain anymore. As it happens when they take a man of service as a traitor to firing squad to the last moment he swear on his loyalty and love to his king as if he does not understand that that king has ordered his execution or calms himself by saying that the history will show that they were wrong. That does not change anything in favour or in condoning of evilness of perpetrators. During the history evil perpetrators hide behind the face of their victims and his eloquence in defending himself as a superior human.
Carlo DJ
Now I should finish with the language used in the comment: “I find the notion that toddlers can smoke and trade in cannabis or other drugs absurd. You do nothing to enhance your arguments by saying such things. Find me a toddler who can even count high enough to work out how much money to charge anyone, or one with sufficient manual dexterity to hold a cigarette long enough to smoke it without physical assistance. And how much harm can an angry toddler do? Not a lot at that age. An older child, maybe, but not a toddler.” This is very important for Messiah to comment on this language. This is the language of the bursar who would like offer, perhaps personally, an extra-special service to a rich customer, but is afraid to be caught by an unwilling addressee. So uses the language of hint. I said that antichrist and its earthly ally, The Impostor Christ, and their zoospores create pieces of language that later shows their real dark innate. Here, it uses the word "cigarette" that is actually a hint to that bursar service. When the carcass carrying the darkness met Messiah, if you can remember I already explained, offered that bursar service. Is this the language of allegory or symbolism or metaphor or even sarcasm and clowning? No, it is the language of the mama of antiquity: bursar to whom? Later we see bursar to baboons.
Carlo DJ
I found out that the concept advertised by Pierre Bourdieu as “symbolic violence” is near to the idea of "Ruler's Phallus" I mentioned as the first element of satanic virtual of human sacrifice. So far we discovered this two elements from only one instance of exposure of the "Impostor" that was done in front of the witnessing world. I heard millions of similar comments when and where I couldn’t record them in any way. Everything is so consistent from my biography as a flesh human and in being persecuted in the aggregate of humans- I mean the society without its structure- and in the inner world, that is in the global mind of human beings, that Satan has created a tunnel to it, that will convince the future believers to accept my advertisement about the meaning of "Original Sin." I also should add one word about the comments I heard. At the beginning I was listening with the flesh of human. Then gradually I noticed that those comments have lacking something; some binding that bears context and meaning and reference, as if words are stolen and randomly patched together, as if created by something between or from crossed marriage of an ape and a machine. They were shivering cold. Those reminded me of the story of H. G. Wells about the Country of The Blind. The first sight of the traveller about their village was that "everything was painted patchy, as if done by a blind." He finds himself right when he beholds that they were actually blind. Then he believes the one-eyed man is the king in the country of blinds. Then he noticed that there was no way to show that he has any point of power having something wobbly in his face. Contrary to that they believe that he is the most inferior among them. They used to call him with mocking names instead of his real name. He couldn't find anything to impress them or to surprise them. Their society was consistent and in working order with full integrity with their minds and perceptions. Even deep love couldn't convert his beloved to accept his idea of seeing except as a romantic poetic elegance. He also had such a pity for these helpless creatures that he couldn't use his physical privilege of strength to vanquish them. He then had to beg them for the bread. At the end they decided they could cure him and integrate him with their society if they remove those wobbling thing from his face. This little story is a complete book of prophets in my opinion and is completely consistent with my life. He was not a prophet with their endurance to stay and preach more. But he is at the minimum a great real mystic with the ultimate observation of the truth of the universe. In our mysticism we say, "One who gets the news, becomes lost unable to propagate it."
Carlo DJ
H G Wells was materialist, I guess. In odds with what you claim, I believe.
Yanis
The truth we human know, all is the same and uniquely similar. We are one big salmon.
Carlo DJ
He meant mobs and ordinary average people could never understand elite and intellectuals
Yanis
No, and I should add two elements of descending of the traveller from top of the mountain and then his ascend back to top at the end leaves no doubt that the story means prophets and mysticism.
Carlo DJ
We discovered, so far two elements of satanic virtual of human sacrifice in the comment we believe created by antichrist and later has passed by 'Impostor-Christ" to humans. First element is intimidating of Messiah by phallus of the ruler. Second was denial of erection of Messiah to force him to bow to zoospores and his back in baboonish offer to erected tail of the snake. The third element is to force him to the voice of antichrist hearing from the inner world envisaged among humans as conscience. Hence, antichrist constantly denies that Messiah has conscience to tense and bend Messiah's mind to listen to that inner voice. Messiah tolerate the most painful sufferings of human being that sky has already evaded, while at the same time zoospores condemn him for immorality due to lack of conscience. It can be discovered in this comment, " And how much harm can an angry toddler do? Not a lot at that age. An older child, maybe, but not a toddler." In the country of the blind they used to call the traveller a newly created person and infantilised him. Calling Messiah an "angry child" (logical) OR an "old child" means that Messiah is lacking conscience and morality in ordinary perception of people. He is either an angry child in frenzy and when he is not then he is an old child in being immoral.
Carlo DJ
Before proceeding let me tell you an anecdote. A man went to heaven after death to paradise. When he enquired became informed that his beloved wife, regretfully, is in hell being punished for her sins. He asked to visit her. When granted he found her wife in a room and noticed that every hour or two somebody comes and pierce her body with a hot sewing needle. He asked the tour guide why they were doing that with her. "For every disloyalty thought or action she has done to you she suffers one needle piercing." She complained to her wife, "Why so many times? I loved you much!" Wife retorted, "Go and visit your mom. She is under sewing machine."
Carlo DJ
Now, it is not ethical for me to talk about the angry toddler or the old child, since they are under sewing machine. Jesus is said to be "lamb of God" not "sheep of God." It is because of this element of being a child. We later read in books of other prophets that they were also being dealt similarly.
Carlo DJ
You should not care about those judgment. They do not mean anything serious. Be positive and live your life as you like it.
Yanis
Later I 'll come to that comment of yours, Yanis. Now listen to this carefully: “A fellow at the Royal College of Psychiatrists in London, says hallucinations are usually symptoms of illness, particularly schizophrenia. He says that people who need psychiatric treatment don't always know it, and worries that support groups like HVN could impede efforts to "combat the scourge of mental illness." Still, he adds that "more than one approach may be valid" and that the real danger may not be hearing voices, but hearing them without some form of support — psychiatric or otherwise.” A first hallucination is not particularly symptoms of schizophrenia. Alcohol, substance, and being a high rank politician also cause hallucinations. Second, not only people who need psychiatric treatment but also many other people like people who drink or smoke or are fat, or have high cholesterol or flu or in need of dental treatment or reading glasses not always know it. He is worried that groups like HVN sort out problems of people and reduce number of customers waiting for his miraculous treatment. More than half plague of schizophrenia in industrialised world is the intervention of psychiatry institution. We can remember the gentleman who was taken to parliament debate to defend consumers against abuse of psychiatry. He said that he pushed back the drug and was telling very calmly to nurses that the drug had a very painful intolerable effect on him without having any positive helping effect on his supposed illness, and suddenly nurses jumped on him restrained him and imposed the drug on him and also they reported that he was a dangerously violent patient and perhaps he had been one add to the statistics justifying all psychiatry alarms. He had had a non-comfortable situation that had caused to take him to lunatic house. He had had a feeling bad and intolerable inside and perhaps he had been very compliant toward receiving some help as when you have a headache and you take a painkiller and then you feel better and back to working order. They have administered some supposed medicine and he hopes that now he gradually feels better. Alas, he has a feeling of illness that has not disappeared now he has a second bad feeling which he knows it is from new arrangements. “Perhaps,” he deliberates “ it is from confinement.” Like patients of normal doctors, he discusses it with same reporting tone of physical patients to his so-called doctor. No, this is not similar to them; he is like a sociopath mobster becoming crimson, “ah, you say it has not any effect,” expressing loudly without any affection. The poor patient complains again. He feels bad and wants to die to get rid of this new introduced disease. The doctor wants to cheat him by saying that they have changed his drug or have added new pills to the batch for side effect. Listen! This is very scientific. They have drugs that go to a well-known, certain core in human chemical factory and correctly tune it. Now there are places out of that core. They are called “sides.” They do not obey commands of a lubricated tuned core any longer. They used to obey before tuning. Now, they start to rebel. Thus you should introduce remedies for these new cores of rebellion and so on. After, sometime body and mind go to state of resistance. They switch off all but a minimum of vital functions. The first day that they remove the coercion, the individual switches on. He is again back to whatever he used to call himself, a lunatic, Julius Caesar, and he does whatever he supposed to do, fight, suicide, arson, sitting crying. Hence my mentioned gentleman peacefully rejected the medicine. He was not insane. He said something sane that he couldn’t cope with two intolerable bad feelings. Now some compassionate people with related education are trying to pave the road such that later fellows of royal to be able to eat with both hands. This has alarmed the royal fellows. These fellows are not worried that schizophrenics do not know but fellows know. He doesn’t lose his pathologic indifference: “f*ck all mentally ill!” Perhaps in future the HVN or similar people prove true. So he adds "more than one approach may be valid". If Yanis wants to go from Nice to Marseille, he can go through North Pole or through Timbuktu. At the end he can get to his bribe and prostitution. The danger is not hearing voices, the danger is losing the cash, by psychiatrists or others.
Carlo DJ
I do not want bribe and prostitution. You said you wanted them.
Yanis
I believe you are reciprocating.
Yanis
No, I do not reciprocate. I only wanted to show you how much it can be effective to give ad hoc attribution to a person. You see, you said that they are not serious when they called me with degrading names and they were joking to entice me to become sane. Well, if they had done it without actually incarcerate me or without putting me under social harassment and seclusion the I would accept it, and at the beginning I accepted it for a while. But, I write this for the record of history that in effect and in reality I was punished for those attributions and with me my wife and my daughter also were punished for vile attributed to me apparently with a tone of mocking and we three are living in the most terrible prison. You know story of Ida, retold by Verdi who was put in sepulchre with her husband. Even remembering that opera I become tearful. You know story of some rituals in India that the wife should be burnt with the dead husband. These are story of my wife. I was born alone and lived alone and I became an educated person with extreme difficulty where that should become a drug seller and with more difficulty I made a little family against shear impossibility. Then I couldn't live the life of an educated person. I was dealt as if I became that drug dealer. (What a spectacular dialectic) and I couldn't live the life of a man of family. I heard the most dirtiest abusive and obscene words from the childhood when I was alone and there was no one to protect me and was beaten to the death and I survived. Then just at the time that I believed everything was changing to better I was captured like a beast and trafficked out of my known habitat. Then they are humouring and they do it for mental health and they are using the dirtiest obscenity and I had to beat me to the death such that I forget what I already received in my life and when they take me to grave I be mentally healthy and know that toddlers are angry but old child is not angry and this is a joke, hoomm,... haan? And where else should I use the wit I have acquired?
Carlo DJ
So they arranged, with all details, a life for me that was completely like what I had under my stepmother and my two stepsisters. Now, as if they were everywhere around, and not only everywhere around to curse me and beat me and accuse me and betray me, but with a full authority and in position of command to the society, and not only that but also to declaring their abusing mission as something necessary and for my good and my well-being and without appeal and without mercy. Then ten years passed and there was no hiding place and there was no sign of a moment of exoneration and I was thirty-six and I became forty-six. Now they got to their final success. I started hearing them all nights and all days around the clock that "they curse me and they suffer my body" -Book of Job.
Not this is Messiah? Not this is what described from four thousand years ago as the sign of prophets facing Satan. Not this is consistent and scientific?
Carlo DJ
So when I became institutionalised I had not symptoms. I was not scary or paranoid or dysfunction. I didn't hear voices. After ten years that I was the subject of operation I began to hear voices. Whose voices? Voices of tormenters. Voice of the institution not the original tormenters. I was tough and healthy and had passed such an extreme pressure of growing up in that harsh inhuman environment and had come out with minimum trauma.
Here I got some observation by reading some anti-psychiatry. One very important observation belongs to David Cooper, when he says most of the times when distressed people start a healing process- in my native language begin to become sane- they become trapped by psychiatry who prevent vehemently that this process continues and degrade them to a plant. Well, psychiatry is pathological science and abruptly refutes that lunatics are in delusion that they are becoming better. There is no test to reject them. Since I hear the voice of abusing institution I found it consistent with idea of people, like the New Zealand scientist Professor John Read, who are studying voice hearers and have concluded that one hears the voice of the tormenters. During last three fours after I quashed the voice of institution. It has transformed to the voices of my step-relatives imbedded in the institution. It is a hard real objective individual experience that I watch with scientific method. I change parameters and I feed it and then I observe the results. What I wrote at the beginning that Satanic ritual of sacrificing human was designed to force the victim to hear the voice of the tormenting witch is well proven for me and other people who study its anthropology with an inspiration from Freud about the role of phallus and ruler in these rituals.
Carlo DJ
Well, I found those three elements of satanic ritual of human sacrifice in a short encounter with "The Impostor." I do not believe that during last twelve thousand years the human intelligence has been changed. Even Grant Hardy won't speculate any evolution can happen in such a period of time in terms of physiology. People in Olympics or circus can show that their physiology can remember their ancestors back in two million years ago, even without a helping tail and hand-shaped toes. Some people, like Grant Hardy, believe that now human beings are scientific minded, in contrast to antiquity when they were non-scientific, non-reasoning, and superstitious. Not only this humble pen, but also the bulk of scientists have not such a dogma, ever, at all. You can remember I said that teachers of fluid dynamics in 1903 were teaching to students that if a train speeds to a hundred miles of an hour the air inside it vacuums out and passengers die. It was the limit necessary for flying a vehicle with assistance of an engine. Hence, they believed the idea of flight was a crazy idea. If one of those scientists come in our age and watches somebody in streets talking to himself, he says that the man is crazy. Now tell him that he is not talking to himself; he is talking with his loved one in United States or in Gobi desert or in Antarctica, then our scientist faints. This is well proven that in our local mind we only can get a slice of the truth about the world. Humans from ancient times have explanations for phenomena they experience. From that time if we can find a pattern for them that satisfies our minds, essentially aesthetically, we chase that pattern as a scientific one. When we cannot find that pattern we try to impose ad hoc patterns to it and frequently ignore instances of the phenomenon that does not coincide with it. Reports of those contradicting instances will be relegated as delusion, craze, or blasphemy when we are asked as having been in a position of occupant of some authority.
Carlo DJ
You were discussing the comment about "angry toddler and old child." Now you are jumping on another branch.
Yanis
An example of that was when there was a shrine in mountains and there were priests and temple tenders around it and the words were spreading that it can cure blinds and paralysed and can create love in the hearts of husbands and wives and it guards you against diseases and so on. These stories always are told about individuals who were living in past or individuals whom nobody has seen and are told by priests or their servants or people attached to the priests but you never can witness that a crippled person has gone there and now you can see him sound and working. What happens if somebody denies by taking a blind there and shows that after forty night of convention in the shrine no change happened to appealing individual? First they say it was because he didn’t believe and the first condition for cure is to believe in existence of such a cure. We read in mental health act debates that, “As some people with lunacy know that there is a measure for being treatable for their incarceration they do not cooperate heartily to prove that their cases do not meet the requirement of being treatable.” We leave the idea that, according to modern medicine, that lack of cooperation should be overcome by the hard science of treatment not by something improvable as cooperation and soul and similar things. The other tool of shrine priests, when they are in good mood, is that the shrine does not cure. It is a treatment. It is a way toward a holistic well-being. But the mainstream way of practice for shrine keepers is to eliminate any rejection by calling it a craze and outrage of blasphemy, asking the mob to attack you and remove you from the society. The comfortable life of a priest who is lacking any real life skill is defending of shrine as a tool of solving worldly problems of believers. Then you expect that he should surrender his shop so easily?
Carlo DJ
There are many real believers among those shrine tenderers.
Yanis
Yes, some of them due to lack of insight might become paranoid in delusion that the shrine has a real objective effect. That is what you may decide to term as fanatism. But I say, even ten thousand years ago that witches were shrieking and running round the fire, they knew it was for their own personal comfort, and there is no truth and effect in those operations. Most of the time the most sly and cunning person would reach to that position.
In remote rural areas of my birth country when the baby screams days and nights and rejects the breast and they behold that he might die they take him to the old lady. (This is something in the past. Now they have modern doctors and perhaps some other facilities) She has remedies for snake bit and can put the broken legs back together such that at least you can limp and walk instead crippled in a corner. She knows some things. She brings a little tin box from her larder. She carefully empties its moving content in a felt hat and fast and nimbly fastens the string of the hat under the neck of the child. She tells the parents that until morning, she hopes, everything becomes sorted out. Now, the child screams more savagely and heartily. Two creatures are fighting with each other. Gradually he becomes silent. Mother has not had an hour of rest or sleep for a week. Father has tossed and turned all nights, exhausted every morning. They go to a deep sleep and the next early morning they have one mouth less to feed.
I said that since Messiah has tolerated any pain any human has ever experienced.
Carlo DJ
Recently I noticed that Michael Arbib who is very popular with Grant Hardy is only one step behind the idea that I advertised as the global mind of human and what I said about the language and moral behaviour. He even has had the similar example to mine regarding the people using sign language. I knew Arbib but only from his book that I have about algebra. I didn't know he was a neurologist or some type of philosopher or even such a famous scientist. So any similarity is due to Messiah who knows the ultimate behind the curtain.
Carlo DJ
Now, I should add that I do not have much knowledge to be precise about this great teacher of neuroscience and computer. I understand that he is very keen to get a detailed map of human brain. I did not quite grasp if he has taught a series of lectures around theology. If so I become surprised. It seems he is not like Chaomsky much involved with wide non-academic society though he has common grounds with him. I believe he has researched deep and far in brain tissue but at the end has emerged or perhaps some day will emerge that the human mind is by evolution or as a gift- he uses the word "language-ready" ;) wink, wink- something different and in another universe from the brain. At the end name is not important. Concept is the same.In his hard science of brain, I speculate, he has not transcended. I mean doctors normally believe that what you see is what there is.
Carlo DJ
I forgot to add one last point about what I understood from him and this great genius scientist definitely is aware that the language is a means of communication. If he has a cat, not a dog, dog is much more intelligent, then that cat communicates with him such that you feel it talks, like my own cat or my small fish when that little thing asks for food. My mind and the cat mind are internet ready. Yes, I use the word internet seriously. By that, I mean, inter-networking and one day Arbib might admit that. Cat mind and mine have a channel open. It is a channel with some limited vocabulary, but enough for our coexistence. It is in a wider global mind shared in our common journey from the onset of creation. We all suffered the same destiny and put it all on the shoulder of Messiah.
Carlo DJ
What is that suffering?
Yanis
I'll tell you. Now, this gentleman is a very interesting one. First in his account of pretending as a fatherly friendly moderator and a defendant of welfare of the distressed people he can remember that during the second world war many of those working on code breaking and other high tech vital issues for the war, were actually mentally ill, but fortunately they were being tolerated in spite of their craziness. He also mentions many of academic staffs in science and engineering departments in universities as having similar "symptoms." In his accounts I have noticed that he is very keen to find new individuals and surrendering them to the mental health slaughter machinery. This is one mission he is incumbent in that special position in the society. And he has a very revealing phrase for his position: "To decrease the temperature of debate!" Next he can remember a child brought to him as a problem. He, not only has the child under his tight labelling surveillance, but also now has found a new customer. He says the father was very careful about the tidiness of the child in front of him. He concludes that perhaps there was something wrong about the father, "as well!" So easily he gets a new fresh catch. Then to add this catch to the list, he adds that he does not subscribe to “R. D. Laing”, but perhaps Laing was correct in believing that the mental illness comes from the parenting. The last phrase of all the debate is his concluding story about one of his constituents, a gentleman who were writing to him for a couple of weeks about different issues and was stalking him into his surgery, but this gentleman couldn’t meet him since he was talking with an Afghan chieftain. He then decides that the mentioned constituent, by a judgment from his submitted writings, without being seen and examined carefully by criteria of let’s say DSM, is suffering from the MILD paranoia. So he passes confidential writings of the constituent to everybody as evidence. Somehow, I speculate that he also has informed a crisis team or whoever should involve in such type of diagnoses to persecute the poor constituent. Then his comment comes as the last wordings of the debate as we read, “On serious reflection, here is a person, one of a hundred or probably thousands, who is completely bypassed by the legislation that we have been talking about. Such people are not bad enough to be sectioned, but they are not insightful enough to seek any help. They are not covered by any provision or legislation. Our debate has been constructive and forward-looking, but there is an enormous task to be done apropos mental health that has nothing to do with the Bill.”
Carlo DJ
This is enough for those who believe that the future legislations bring more emancipation. The last quote in the previous comment is from some type of more liberal person. He is waiting for an occasion that more people will be covered by label and stigma of psychiatry and coercion to treatment and detention. Now, allow me, Yanis to scrutinize one who is used to scrutinize others.
First, the very focused scientists who were working for war machines. It reminds of an ideologue I knew who wanted to superficially create something in imitation of Marx. His example was that if the egg becomes a chicken it is toward the ascending evolution of universe; otherwise, if it becomes spoiled it is reactionary and against the evolution. He confuses evolution with a discernable benefit. Or here in a site explaining focused people; “They gather and memorize the serial number of photographic cameras without having interest in how they work!” Again he believes these two activities are different. You bring two focused people. One breaks the code and throws the cup in the pond. The other only throws the cup in the pond. Sun is good but when every now and then it sends flares of poisoning particles that degenerates our genes towards ageing, then it is bad; of course not that bad to be sectioned.
Next, we get to the father of problem making child. That poor father wanted to show his keenness about his good parenting by pretending that he was very careful about appearance and smartness of his child and by that also exonerate his child as a tidy boy who is far from being naughty. Who knows? Perhaps they had borrowed or have bought in spite of being poor, that suite only for that occasion. What he has shown under those projectors could be drastically different with their private life, which is completely legitimate. He wanted to guard his little family world from the cruel clinically metallic state intervention. Perhaps the man has been a real liberal and democrat in his heart and his house. Then he says he doesn't subscribe to R. D. Laing. This is obvious. He wants only uses his name to increase the temperature of his nonqualified speech to float himself above the others.
Now we get to the man who has harassed and stalked his representative for a long period of one and half year. No, one and half month; no, one and half week with different issues. Since he is not sure if the man is paranoid, hence he decides that the man suffers from a mild paranoia.
Carlo DJ
So, I said that he decides that the letter writing constituent suffers from mild paranoia. We do not know what is paranoia, let alone a mild one. Then he has one case of this mild paranoia waiting, but still unattended, for the best "possible" services, he goes further and speculates that there are hundreds of them still undiscovered; not enough, he steps courageously or wildly forward in speculations that there are thousands of them hiding. The case is interesting: he brings his mouth near your ears, says, "They are everywhere, even among us, you should spread talcum powder to behold their contours!"
Carlo DJ
Hence, this gentleman does not recognize what is the meaning of "an order of magnitude" when he is legislating for the so-called deviants in a society, but he dares to give his concluding remark that "they should bring them to justice!" Or, let me rather say bring them to the care of useless harming intervention of 'state'. When they are voting to him he knows what is the difference of one vote with a hundred vote or a thousand vote. Or he knows why they say it is ninety-nine pence but not a pound. Or when they increase his salary not a pound a year, but a hundred pound or a thousand pound or ten thousand pound a year. He knows how much it is good when by some luck you become a member of congress or how good it is if instead of four years he stays two consecutive turns for eight years or more in the parliament with prestige and good pay. He understands the meaning of good and luck and numbers and time and place for his own but he does not understand the antithesis of similar categories (I mean Aristotle categories) for the humble flippant constituent who is a little luvie or crazy.
Carlo DJ
Now, please keep it a little cool. I have no clue of those antitheses.
It seems, you accuse the humble constituent of being crazy and the congress man of being paranoid.
Yanis
The constituent was unlucky since he wrote his letters to this one who seems to be very keen of underscoring craze of people as illness. So the congressman believes that he himself should enjoy the good luck and opportunity of getting a prestigious position in the society but he does not extend that randomness to the society. This is messianic. We said it is an intrinsic whim behind the universe. It makes the world beautiful and unexpected. Remember those two snooker balls next to each other. They are shy and silent and without motion when you are watching them. When you look other way and leave them unobserved they bring out a basketball from inside and start to pass it together. In that way they keep each other busy to hold their bond together. You never catch them just at the nick of their tender even by looking in a mirror. That imposes the whim on the universe. The universe is two nothingness unified as a nothingness passing a whole universe to each other in no time and nowhere. This is "The Grand Unification." Nobody knows that such thing exists and happens. There is only the beautiful picture of "The Perfect Human."
Carlo DJ
The congressman knows what is a good time in the parliament but does not know they keep you four miserable years in asylum and without anybody notices it might become ten years or twenty years or a lifetime. He knows what is good for himself but does not know what is bad for others or what is good for others. He tells to himself when pondering on letter writing man, "Oh, god this is one of them. Now, he is stalking me and the other day he might find me alone somewhere and kill me." He projects his fear and misery to the man. Now he is a good paranoid fascist in position of legislation.
Carlo DJ
I bet the congressman should be easy anger and employs his kinfolks for great contracts and has extra-marriage affairs and doing hand jobs in his office and god forbids watching pictures of Cambodian children for sex orgy. I said that she said, "Your mother is under sewing machine!" Then he advises in a fatherly manner to make the neck of the legislation funnel wider to consume and exhaust thousands of people now for just being a real liberal but crazy person.
Carlo DJ
If you notice he already has advised to use minimum of restraints when ther is no other alternative in a mild friendly manner when he is describing one of his obserations in past times.
Yanis
Yes, he is a mob fascist, not a leader fascist. He only votes to Hitler. After that, he doesn't like to look when they are doing the dirty part of the job. He is not curious to know what happens afterwards. Contrary to any findings, he still continues voting to the devil. He does not "allow his emotions overcome his reason." He is severe that we should allow some noses bleed for a great good safe and risk free future. He keeps thousands to prevent one escapes.
Carlo DJ
The craze of the mentioned constituent was writing letters to his representative. The other one was memorising serial numbers of cameras instead of learning using a camera. What is the paranoia of thousands yet undiscovered ones that the representative urges for their reconnaissance and apprehension. This is very interesting for me when I saw it here. They go and for hundreds of hours they practice to throw a sharp object -dart- to a target. Their distance is only few feet and they bend as much that they almost can touch the target and pierce the dart anywhere there, but still they miss the bull eye most of the time. Crazier are people who come for this stupid useless activity in thousands and pay for ticket and sit and watch them from a distance that shows no detail of the target. Perhaps some of them memorising names and biography of present and past champions and then in another types of crazy activities they answer questions about this crazy activity regarding the date of birth of a dart champion and his life and time. But since these activities or similar activities are not around the occupiers of power and their whereabouts and help as a distraction to them nobody label them as paranoia and illness. We hear frequently, "You are ill doing so much gambling!" But it is exonerated as a sane decision-making.
Carlo DJ
I said the congressman knows significance of numbers for his own benefits, but does not understand them for others. He has found one individual who is writing, say, crazy things to him. Then he says that there are hundreds and thousands of them hiding around ready to put his social club under the risk. The fact is that he cannot make abstraction out of the outside world concepts in his mind. He knows five trees are more than two trees, but he does not understand that five is greater than two. He knows but to a certain number, say, up to three or at most ten. After that abstract numbers are as infinity for him. Psychiatrists and politicians and police and army people and social workers are mostly like that. They do not have an abstract idea of numbers, time, and space. For example if they asked Dr Shipman if he had killed one hundred and fifty people or one hundred and fifty one he could not recognize what was the difference. He could recognize only up to five or six. I got this by analysing the structure of 'The Impostor' and his guide dog.
Carlo DJ
This is quoted from
http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/may08/6198
"A Difficult Time For Depression Devices By Sandra Upson
First Published May 2008,page 10
Mood-disorder treatment has eluded the makers of brain stimulators. Will the next round of research fare better?
CHANGING MINDS: A brain implant for depression is in the works.
Brain-stimulation devices for treating depression have faced unexpected setbacks. To serve the 40 million or so sufferers who fail to respond to antidepressant drugs, a few companies have tried to treat the disorder with electronic implants and electromagnets. These therapies, however, have stumbled en route to the doctor's office.
To take a crack at those intractable cases, experiments exploring five device therapies will start this year. In total, nine different technologies are now under investigation in at least 27 human trials.
The largest new study, done by St. Jude Medical, in St. Paul, Minn., will be the first major human trial of one brain implant that showed dramatic early results. A device inserted near the collarbone sends pulses of current to electrodes placed inside the brain. At the other end of the spectrum, Northstar Neuroscience, in Seattle, will enroll patients in a small, exploratory study. Northstar's technique involves implanting a postage-stamp-size electrode on the surface of the brain.
But if history serves as a guide, the path will not be easy for either company. In the United States, which has both a large market and tough approval standards, only two depression devices are now in clinics. One is electroconvulsive therapy, which precedes the U.S. Food and Drug Administration's governance. The other is Houston-based Cyberonics' vagus nerve stimulator. Here, a pulse generator in the chest sends current to an electrode coiled around a nerve in the neck to indirectly alter brain regions believed to control mood.
A factious debate leading up to the device's approval pitted the FDA's management against scientists and was a sign of worse things to come: the United States' main government-funded health insurers soon decided that the device was not useful enough to earn reimbursement. Private insurers generally follow the lead of those agencies, so for the US $25 000 procedure, the news was crippling.
The approval process has not been any smoother for Malvern, Pa.–based Neuronetics, whose device transmits a magnetic field into the brain from an external coil. This induces a current that also seems to assuage depression. Unlike the others, this method involves no surgery, which makes it safer and more palatable to the patient. Even so, in January 2007 an influential FDA advisory panel gave it an unfavorable review, again claiming that its benefit to patients is unproven.
Northstar, too, has been knocked off course—and before it really got started. A trial of its stimulation device failed to prove that it surpassed an existing alternative. The goal was stroke rehabilitation, but the outcome will likely impinge on the depression investigation anyway: Northstar cut one-third of its workforce in response. Helen Mayberg, a neurologist at Emory University who invented the deep-brain stimulation technique that St. Jude is now testing, wonders if the companies' troubles will haunt the next round of research. “You have to ask, where did they go wrong?” she says.
The basic problem is that the changes induced in a stimulated brain are poorly understood, in part because depression itself is exceedingly complex. Linda Carpenter, a psychiatrist at Brown University, explains that 100 patients might exhibit 20 different sets of symptoms.
Furthermore, crafting the perfect pulse is beyond the reach of today's psychiatry. A pill has one main parameter— dosage. These devices have at least five: the intensity and frequency of stimulation, the duration of each pulse and the intervals between them, and the spot being stimulated.
Checking every parameter in hundreds of patients would bankrupt most medical-device makers. “There are no deep pockets in this game,” says Eric Wasserman, a clinician in the National Institutes of Health brain-stimulation unit.
As Mayberg sees it, “We may look back in 10, 15 years and say, we did what to the brain? But it's a definite paradigm shift.” In the meantime, St. Jude and Northstar hope to avoid the pitfalls of their predecessors."
Carlo DJ
The previous article quoted here to show that what is the attitude of other scientists towards the postulates of a psychiatrist. By default, those readers and writers of that magazine and the institution that creates it believe that there is a solid paradigm falsifiable and subject to sensitive tests that can be relied and referred to by an engineer who is working side by side of a psychiatrist. Ieee engineers are familiar with electronic circuitries known as chips each might contain more than five hundred million transistors besides other components on a surface of a mail stamp. With two transistors people could make a good pocket radio. One should ask those engineers what happens if one of those five hundred million transistors burns inside the chip. Could he repair it by connecting an electrode that its insertion already destroys one hundred thousand other transistors? Or somebody who has not any appreciation of delicateness of that circuitry and the concise function and interrelation of parts inside it applies some electrical pulse to some randomly selected point of that chip? That chip is only one humble creation of human brain (actually I should say human mind- I am writing now on the fashion of Grant Hardy). I said one job of The Grand Unified Theory is to write a concise and short article for enlightenment of those hard science scientists to help them revise their wrong belief regarding psychiatry as a scientific discipline.
Carlo DJ
Again I succeeded to find few similar ideas to what I advertised here independently without having knowledge of them. One I mentioned was converting human to 'sim' cards. Now, I learned, it is hype or something termed as the 'singularity' and they have made a movie picture out of that idea. Mine had a better, more realistic approach, based on the idea of organ transplant and in-place organ cloning. Theirs, I guess, is based on the idea of bionic mechanical and artificial body. I believe if that fantasy should happen it takes long time that human can replace the joy of flesh with the virtual joy of flesh. I extended that idea to extreme of mystic humour that we actually are now those sim cards and even further: just an idea of a sim card in circuitry of a sim card somewhere and we know that we cannot prove anything other than this and there is no way that we can wake ourselves up in somewhere that assures us that we can kick a stone to show that we are real. This I couldn't find anywhere that we have already evolved to the end and beyond any singularity and now we are enjoying the pain of that achievement that moves us at the edge and equator of being and not being crawling the dark labyrinth inside the glass marble towards the all-existence of non-existing outside world.
In that same article I learned that Teilhard de Chardin (author of The Future of Man, 1959 posthumous.) speculates a future of interconnection of minds in a unified cosmological mind. As Yanis said these ideas have existed from ancient time in philosophy, religion and literature and stories. All of them are different with mine. If you accept my ideas it means that there is no future or past; all are shrunk to one point. I say if you believe me and my sufferings and my story you have leapt in a world that your son is the god and if your son is the God, then He exists now and beside you and you pray and you believe in god and he blesses and all that. Next to you, one who does not believe me and participate in or watch my sufferings he leaps into a world where its future is singularity and frustrated sim cards yearning for a faint assurance of being. Its machinery is like those quantum machines (Stern-Gerlach) that pass some and reject others based on an intrinsic whim of... of nature? No, we cannot refer to nature here. Here nature is the inaccessible for declaration. We should say, "an intrinsic whim of whimsicality." When you participate in that leap towards your son then you know how to create the world out of the no time and no space. That hundred billion years that I said man needs to learn how to whim is a blink of your eyes.
Carlo DJ
Back to the story of member of parliament and his crazy constituent, he says that somebody was writing to him and stalking him for one and half week regarding some issues and he believes from scrutiny of the written materials that the writer is one of the thousands hidden paranoids in his constituency who are in need of mental health service but they do not have enough insight to go and surrender themselves to such authorities. He hopes for a day that those laws and rules that he has approved in parliament for coercion of mentally ills become tighter such that they can include more population towards incarceration. Here I could remember story of Peter the Great who believed Dutch people were an industrialised and modern country compared to Russia because they all used to shave their beards regularly, in contrast to Russians who didn't shave at that time. He ordered that the barbers in army "to shave beard of everyone who do not shave his beard. Or else they lose their heads!" Now the question is: "what should barber do about his own beard- to shave or not to shave? This is the question for the barber" To the joy of Wolfgang Strauss who is not a doctor of philosophy only Bertrand Russell could answer that question after one hundred fifty years for the army barber of Peter. Now this parliament doctor says his constituent has not insight since he does not go to see the doctor but if he goes to see the doctor then he has insight then why should he go and see the doctor so he should not go to see the doctor since he has enough insight to visit the doctor voluntarily. Then the man tells to himself that "Well, I have enough insight to go to see a doctor voluntarily, so I do not need to go to see the doctor!" It never ends.
Carlo DJ
Well this is how people in power reason. Regardless of that, he says that one should go to doctor and complain that he is paranoid: "Doctor, doctor, I am paranoid!" Or people should go to vending machine and buy estellazine. Otherwise, government should coerce them. Who might do that, but one. He went to doctor and said that he was paranoid and asked for some remedy. They took him and put him in incarceration. That constituent is native and knows that it is a cheating that people here go in street to protest that they put the dog, Laika, in the rocket round the earth orbit and they are worried that her oxygen is finishing and she dies there and even the life of a dog is important. Actually, they were forced into the street to protest why they themselves should not put a dog in the rocket. Here there are three savagely beaten dogs waiting here for protest of Browns family, finishing their oxygen.
Carlo DJ
There is story of a psychiatrist, in the articles section of this site, who has received millions of dollars from companies to do research about mood altering chemicals. He has failed to report this income to the university, contrary to what he should do. This is the man who moves his jaws about insight and angry toddlers and old children when he meets the poor snared loonies. Now, he says he could understand that he should report. He is a poor Columbian drug trafficker and “non comprado Ingles.” He needs to be taught language one-oh-one.
They haven't said, yet, that his research is flawed. If not why he should take so much money serendipititiousely?
Carlo DJ
Carlo, a psychiatrist is allowed to doctor the truth or hide part of it or be thrift on truth for well-being and confidentiality of his patients to reach the accepted goal of treating them. You should acknowledge that.
Yanis
When we were primary school children, we used to discuss a 'blue light' vehicle was allowed to hit how many people on his mission. We believed with our inexperienced minds they were doing some complex job beyond our understanding that permits them even to kill people when they were in rush doing them. Later, we recognised that that rush was not necessary indeed. We discovered, sometimes, it has happened that they were fetching take away foods, speeding and clearing the road by frenzy alarm, to keep it hot at the destination. Well, we concluded, upon becoming mature, that all lives have equal prices.
Carlo DJ
Yes, some chidren believed the 'blue light' cars were allowed to hit and run up to four people when they were on their missions. Ah,... good old children.
Yanis
Excellent! Let me finish what I had started regarding the crazy constituent and his paranoid representative. What happens then to the constituent after becoming labelled by the representative? 'They' come and put him under surveillance; because they cannot just go to people and call them lunatics. It is not ethical and prudent. They first check if his father is in a position of power then they punch in his ear. They check if he has some cocky individual loving him around and being a doctor or some one similar who later might sort them out or if the man has firm connections with some political noisy group. If the situation was secured then they approach more and more. Meanwhile that gentleman begins to feel that the environment around him is tense but he cannot figure out why and does not know what has agitated his inner senses. He starts to react as nature has dictated to him to defend his existence against the intruders. That gives intruders more clues that he is a lunatic in need of more care so they intensify their activities more than before to isolate their targeted subject. What is at the end of this destructive feedback loop? You read in the news that a lunatic stabbed somebody on the delusion that the stabbed person was part of a conspiracy to detain him as a mentally ill. In less violent cases we already had story of a Mr Richard Jan who wanted to retaliate similar to perpetrator. Now that I become familiar more with the profile of this society by reading discussion of that representative and his constituent I believe that he was right in his suspicion. They convicted him to life imprisonment since they are allowed to conceal the operation of psychiatry by collusion and perjury with the judge and witnesses. They couldn’t reveal that the man was right that ‘they’ were harassing him actually and he was defending his freedom. The psychiatry confidentiality does not mean confidentiality of cases of patients. Those records are available for any potential customer who comes forward, say, by paying twenty-five pounds. Confidentiality in psychiatry means that the psychiatrist is allowed to kill up to certain number of people when he is rushing with his frenzy to the loo.
Carlo DJ
What is that last remark?
Yanis
As much I thought I couldn't find out any other persisting mission for the psychiatrist.
Carlo DJ
Now, it is time that I give you this assumption that I am righteous in claiming that I am being chased by an institution of this society in a cornered isolation and that institution knows every detail of my movement and whatever I want to do and it intervene in it in frustrating me to do my decision. Through studies we had we saw that some learned and normal people have discussed feasibility of such operations to achieve certain pre-defined goals. We can safely have this assumption without being ruled out as paranoid delusion. Later if we find inconsistency then we can put this assumption aside. This first premiss is not wild and contrary. The wild and contrary that could define you as a mad individual is assuming that there is someone that can read remotely your mind in real time and is the centre of that institution motivation and make them capable to chase you and keep isolated. I said someone and not something since at the beginning it is difficult to proclaim it not being a human. Please do not judge now, calling me bizarre and mad. Just suppose that it can happen. Assume you are in nineteenth century and somebody claims that you are moving among and breathing in millions of microscopic living creatures or your surrounding is full of radio waves and cosmic particles and malicious radiation from the earth. Just suppose! I want to discuss that if such an art exists then does it add anything useful like radio waves. For example, by putting a radio in oval office of US you could steal all the discussions of the president if you were living in nineteenth century and only you had a tinny radio in the world. Is this possible like mad scientists of cinema who have objects that nobody else has got yet and they threat the world for destruction or surrendering of their high school physics teacher who had failed them to be painfully punished in their own hands
Carlo DJ
To make you happy I just suppose there is such a possiblity but do not shoot me if I cannot believe You. I also sometimes might look at the floor. This is what I usually do when somebody talks pathologic. I am not rude. Naturally I do that.
Yanis
Yes, as every child knows, it is communication of minds: mind reading in certain vicinity. I claim and perhaps can prove that you can get that apprehension from a more remote place. So just suppose that it can happen. From my anecdote you could understand that it was not possible for anybody to have a tinny radio without knowledge of others in the nineteenth century and use it to entertain himself in becoming the ruler of the world. Should such thing come to existence already governments have it and they have a quadruples of measures and counter-measures and counter-counter measure to it and those who want to procure instruments for the mad scientist they procure for the governments. It remains gangs of mobsters and violent political activists and liberation fronts to enjoy having such facilities. They also have connections and people and supporters and partisans and sympathisans and sooner or later devise such machinations or protect themselves against them. Until a day that even opium farmers in desolations of Hindo-kush plateaus equip them to any new gadgetry. Then who remains empty handed? Tsar of Russia didn’t allow to patent the invention of radio to use it as a secrete weapon only for his army. Few months later Marcconi patented it with all privileges for himself. Emperor of china in middle ages destroyed a glider presented to him and killed its inventor. When his Vazier asked him the justification that why the king didn’t want to enjoy the art of the flight he said that if he flies then desert people will learn it too, and the great china wall barrier would become compromised. Hence, if somebody can read the mind he only can use it for a lonely poor trafficked and blackmailed person. I mean, just suppose.
Carlo DJ
After those two assumptions I assert a third and wildest of all that the one who is capable of reading a mind remotely is not a human. I do not say that it is a man-made machine or an animal like a dog that can sniff contraband goods in customs. He in flesh and body looks like a human but does not share something important in humanity. Not that it is a bad human. It is a non-human. It is something else. The people who hear voices and people who are interested in their experience wonder what is that voice. It is like the human words, but it is something else. It is not a computer or a radio program on air that is talking. It is vehemently doing something that nobody can understand or find a right reason for it. Do you know what is an inert gas in chemistry? It is a gaseous element that cannot become liquidified and solidified and does not make compounds with other elements. An example is Helium. Can we have in this family of elements to be solid and metallic like silver and become combined with other elements having contradictory properties in nature? Yes, it is possible if we can go down that column of inert elements then we can see it. We can also have rare strange elements made of short living entities such as a positron and a meon and they can interact with other materials as if they are chemical elements. They are chemical elements but they do not belong to periodic tables. Not that because they are short living but because they are not elements at all. They pretend that they are elements. They belong to a world that cannot exist even in theory.
Carlo DJ
I beg your pardon. Your last sentence, do you mean they are anti-matter? Anti-matter worlds can exist in theory. I want you to be careful in propagating knowledge based ideas.
Yanis
No I do not mean antimatter. They are chemically like matter and they go right in their places in the periodic table. I also do not mean short living metals artificially synthesised at the bottom of the elements. I mean elements named as meunium studied in chemistry as chemical elements. In biology of living things there are good examples such as cave fish that already has had eyes but has lost it due to lack of usage or marsupials who brings it child and grow it in an outer womb. or trees that male and female are separate and in transitions or my dear ants that are an animal separated in parts and parts pass information to each other as if attached organs of a body and regenerating organ stays at a place like their centre of leadership.
We have examples in celestial objects of any extreme and in between of gradual change of properties. For example Saturn and Jupiter are two tinny and castrated solar systems with a sun in centre and planets around them
This example that an object in nature acquire all the properties seen in other instances of the object in a profile slicing of them and shed other elements can be found in galore.
Carlo DJ
I guess I was not clear. I said I didn't want pass knowledge that people already have better than me or as much as I have. I only like to talk cosmological. Sometimes talking cosmological could become very concise. A good example is James Clark Maxwell. He talked philosophically when he wrote his mathematical expressions of radio waves. He was extremely concise in his philosophical ideas. I said there is a human look-alike that is not human. I didn't mean that it is a bad or cruel or a vicious or inhumane. I mean it is a non-human. I was not clear. For example, antimatter elements are chemical elements in their world. Anti-calcium is an element like calcium and it goes in the same place as calcium in the periodic table; only everything inside it is in counter direction to calcium. On the other hand we have observed some elements like muonium. They have a chemistry of theirs. They react and make molecules with normal molecules. But they do not belong to our world and our periodic table. They do not belong to any wildly conceivable world; not even to one of those ten to power of five hundred million conceivable universes. Still we have observed them and due to a very long life of more than two milliseconds with considerable details. It is one profile of what can be conceivable in nature in unbelievable corners and extremes. Another contrary phenomena you can see in nature is in transition pivots of evolution when a fish flies in the air and a mammal that delivers in the ocean. Feet that cannot be used for walking and are used for swimming; weathered and sunken eyes of cave trout; liquids that come out of their containers instead of going in; phase transformations that involve neglecting infinity large changes and all of them are within the reach of high-school graduates. You start with a weakly observable property then it grows and grows until that property is the dominant and all visible behaviour.
We talk around our Grand Unified Theory. People are hearing voices; all of them. From a very weak observable one when you are on a height and you feel vertigo. What does vertigo mean? It means somebody tells you jump. It is not you since if it was you then it was your volition and you would jump or you wouldn't feel vertigo similar to free skydiver. When he jumps and gets to floor he has no bad feeling then when people applaud and clap a faint voice tells him, "You s.o.b could escape this time and have snubbed your nose. Next time your parachute will come faulty!" Then we have people who are suffered days and nights and the voice is so strong that commands them to kill themselves or burn the house or kill others or bit and injure themselves. In all of these examples in our known range we have two phenomena, two entities: you and the voice. There is always you that they take to doctor and you suffer and shout and fight and the other is the voice that is calm and endlessly suffers you without remorse or without giving you a moment of rest. You can recognize yourself always as yourself with all integrity and endurance in fight with something. Never we have seen that you fade completely and voice remains. Why? Why we cannot observe muonium? What happens if there was only voice that navigates and there is nothing, no one who fights back with it? Do you understand Yanis?
Carlo DJ
Yes, indeed. I believe that I understand.
Yanis
Hence if it remains only voice then it is the voice with one human body all in its control. But there is no human inside the bag to fight and clinch and twist and shout and shake and wants to go to doctor. People who are familiar with voice hearing experience know how much the voice is calm and prompt to answer. They know that voice always says, "I know!" The voice is conning and sly and resilient and omnipresent and painful and advising and austere and plausible. Now what happens if this thing comes or actually appears in human society? Most of the people believe that it must become rich and (mockingly now a day on the internet sites of conspiracy theorists) member of congress of US, or vice president or free masonry or Microsoft or such things. It is due to the fact that no one has taken notes of what voice hearing people says about the voices. The voice has not any goal but to destroy you. It begins as an angle or god or grand-father or a doctor or a group who wants to make you the boss or reform your moral behaviour or revenge from your past and gradually it shows itself that its goal is solely destroying you and killing you in the most painful and degrading conditions by your own hands or by means of others. These goals remain intrinsic to the voice even if the voice remains alone. Well, if there is nothing in the bag what happens to muonium in the society of humans? It comes into the society and starts to talk to the society in the same way that it is talking to its victims in the bag. Now society becomes mentally ill, mentally hearing voices, schizophrenic, whatever you name it, and obeys the weird commands of the voice: "Sixty million have become lunatics! Can you believe?"
Carlo DJ
By the way, when I was searching for correct spelling of Muonium I found it in page three-three-three (333)of my old textbook.
Carlo DJ
Hence I started from a weak manifestation of a phenomenon and then I could find instances of happening that in more and more powerful cases. I said when you start from helium it is inert and all resisting to become liquid and solid and escapes from any containment even from the gravity of earth and when you move downward then gradually other contradictory properties emerge until you cannot call the matter inert or gaseous and if we can get the opportunity in future we'll have a silver metallic solid that behaves like lead rather than helium, although we have to put it in intrinsic morphology with helium in the same category. Similarly I reasoned for hearing voices. At the beginning it seemed very strange, and you thought I'd fall in a point that it becomes impossible for me to find smallest straw of common sense reasoning for my commencing advertisement that voice can come in appearance of a human in the society or something exists that looks like a human but it is actually a non-human, but now it seems easier for you to appreciate my proposition.
Carlo DJ
Ah, yes.
Yanis
Perhaps you thought I meant aliens from other planets or a cluster of radio waves and these things? I do not need to make any assumption regarding source of voices. You can assume it is from genes or from half of the brain of the victim or from Brocca region or from aliens experiencing on humans or from a group of millionaires who want to conquer the earth and victim is on their way. These assumptions are not important. Important is to accept that such a voice exists in human as a disease or as a gift or as whatever you like. I am not sure that traditional psychiatry that declared him as in charge of such anomaly accepts that such a voice exists at all or they know it a cheating and ploy of mentally ill people. If you accept its existence then you should accept that it manifests in a spectrum. Some people have it in an acceptable level to cope, and some kill themselves to relieve themselves from its harassment.
Carlo DJ
Why do you assume a full spectrum should exist out there?
Yanis
Because it is the way we always do. If it was not for such assumptions we never could generalize to achieve knowledge of unpredictables.
Carlo DJ
A fashion example to day is sexuality. We have gays in males and I do not like this word -lesbian- but I do not know any alternative for now; yes we have lesbians in females. We do not have two clear-cut separate genders. The spectrum is fully occupied from say a 'he-man' to an average type and to a gay man and then attaches to a 'he-woman' and goes to a 'she-woman' you can find anything among: just like Mendelyev periodic table. Hence dip your hand in the urn and grope and grab somebody. There is a probability that you can find anything. To appreciate more, men have breasts like women and with certain mathematical model you can unify the sex organ of male and female. You can unify their biochemistry, too, by defining certain mathematical transformation. You can define that mathematical transformation to map the entire spectrum to a unified model.
Carlo DJ
What Paul Dirac speculated was that if he assumes lines of the field are like threads and he cuts them with a pair of scissors what will happen? But those lines are something you assume that exist and draw on paper or black board for ease of understanding. Out there, there is no line. Nobody knows what is there. Perhaps they are barbed wires- ah I found them! Perhaps really they are barbed wires. I am writing impromptu. Now I feel perhaps they are barbed wires. Well there is no line but just supposed them. He said one negative electron comes out of the cut head and it has to disappear in the other end if we connect both ends together again. But what happens if we do not attach them back and leave two heads loose? Then we have to assume there is a similar thing appearing at the other end but to keep nature in peace it should be a positive electron. Then people accepted his wild supposition and went and cut those lines and observed that he was correct in his assumption. He advertised his conjecture based on the beauty and symmetry of his hypothesis.
Carlo DJ
As far as I know, many people reports that they are hearing voices inside their minds. I have noticed that some groups of doctors specialized in study of brain and what we know as psychiatry acknowledges these reports. I have experienced through one of my friends that if you tell to a doctor here in Britain that you are hearing voices in your head they arrange for your detention. But the people in charge of your detention do not accept your report of hearing voices nor they reject it. They just listen to you. If you say you do are not hearing any voices any longer normally they release you from slam. Even recently we read in article section of this website that reputable Time magazine has acknowledged existence of such a phenomenon in a fraction of human beings regardless of geography and time span. It is a ubiquitous phenomenon. Some of these hearing voices people become very dangerously following commands of that strange voice. Some of them cope pretty well during their lifetime without much trouble. Some times that voice is only one or two words annoyingly repeated around the clock in the victim head. Some times it looks as if somebody like a human companion all the time is talking. A small fraction of such victims have accepted that the voice was not annoying. But Most of the victims are suffering from that voice. Some have reported that as if there is more than one person talking in their heads. Most of the victims have reported that the voice shows it as a man rather than a woman. So such a phenomenon exists and people acknowledge it when it is beyond a certain threshold. When it is under that threshold people interpret it as their own psyche. For example in vertigo feeling people do not report that a voice in my head was urging me to jump. They know it is an alienated behaviour. You are tightly set to the ski lift, but a voice tells you that all knots and bolts will shatter in a minute and when you are back on the firm ground you become elated that everything is safe. Still a voice tells you that in a minute the avalanche will sweep everything and when you are back in the road to your home the voice tells you that a lorry will crash your car. And when you are safe at home a voice tells you that you are on a thin crust over an ocean of molten lava. That voice exists as part of your mind in a spectrum beginning from unintelligible to harsh annoying maddening level of a human companion. That exists without doubt as part of human experience. Am I right and clear? You can see instances of it in all shapes and forms and weights and powers as if they exist out there like insects and plants and rocks and planets and quarks and muons. If you become educated then you accept that you cannot attribute more existence to a rock than a neutrino due to the fact that you can painfully kick it but you reject neutrinos that even planet earth cannot stop them. They pass from thickness of earth without noticing that the earth exists at all on their way. Knowledge to both objects-rock and neutrino comes to your mind similarly; so the voices in heads. So you have weak and partially powerful voices and very powerful voices. Sometimes the voice looks very intelligent. My friend who was the victim said to his voice, “When people were in caves and jungles then could the voice call them hooker?” The voice replied immediately, “According to anti-psychiatry [it] is a socially created phenomenon and didn’t exist at those times!” (The voice knew that the victim was reading anti-psychiatry materials to cope with the voice.) When a voice in the head of the victim becomes more powerful in becomes more in command and tries to control the victim more. You can recognize between the voice and the victim. You know one of the entities as the voice and the other as the victim (of the voice). There is no knowledge that what is the source of the voice and victims cannot figure out what is their demands but just suffering them without considering time, place, situation, whether the victim is physically fit or is suffering a disease, poverty, events of the victim’s outside world, death of people around him, cold or warmth or season or his spouse and children, day or night. It is in real time on-line and parallel with the victim and no movement to escape from it is possible for the victim. Is this correctly what all voice hearers are reporting or you believe that I am exaggerating? Can you find the source of the voice and show it to legal authorities to prosecute it or can you ask anybody to command the voice for some remittance or exoneration or a short permit of leave. Do you name its name to call him? Can you say where it is situated? It is an anonymous intervening authority inside your head.
Something happens in human mind doesn’t happen in society?
Carlo DJ
No! For example, an animal with body of lion and legs of a horse an with wings of an eagle can happen in mind but cannot exist. It is delusion.
Yanis
And by reading carefully, it was not clear when the heckling voice told your friend that "[it] is a social phenomenon" which it meant, hookers or schizophrenia? Please expand.
Yanis
Ah, it meant hearing a voice is due to social inhibitions and should not being experienced when people were living in caves and jungles. [It] said to my friend that [it]s mission is to create a therapeutic environment inside his head and then [it] goes. The voice talks in this to baffle you and when it gets the feedback that you are baffled it continues as being a thug that "f**ks the hooker!" [It] consumes whatever is sacred for you to destroy you without any specific goal. These lessons from an ignored [being], a forgotten entity in the nature who righteously has not received [its] deserved attention is very important for enhancing our understanding of the universe where we have been created. Well, in my native place we have not recently had significant contribution to modern acquiring of knowledge, except perhaps providing fuel for it. The place where I was born was a only a mile away from the place that the great middle ages doctor, Ibn-e-Sina was making love with the beautiful widow queen and writing his encyclopaedia of medicine – the source of medical education for five hundred years in the entire world. Now half-life of any textbook is only five years. His all the time attendant and disciple – Al-jordjani – who was very intellectual always used to tell him why Ibn-e-Sina does not proclaim himself as the prophet since The Prophet was an illiterate man and could convince so many people to gather around him hence it was much easier for such a great philosopher like Ibn-e-Sina to gather people. Ibn-e-Sina answered that The Prophet had a special characteristic that no other people can acquire by endeavouring themselves to acquire. It is a given thing not an acquired one. One freezing cold winter night, snowing outside, he woke up and called Al-jordjani and asked him that to bring some fresh water from outside to quench his thirst. Jordjani did not move from the bed started to argue on medical basis that according to Ibn-e-Sina’s own books he should not drink cold water in the middle of the night. This argument continued for an hour or so until the man on the ‘minaret’ started to shout that hymn for Morning Prayer of believers. Then Ibn-e-Sina told to Jordjani was his difference with the prophet. He had made Jordjani rich and famous and frequenting in all the royal courts, a friend for thirty years. Still, he did not obey one simple errand of his teacher face to face, but the man on the ‘minaret’ obeys an illiterate living four hundreds years ago in the middle of the freezing winter night
Carlo DJ
Then, what he had more than Ibn-e-Sina. I also found comparing of recent scientific achievements in different places irrelevant.
Yanis
Yes, I didn't want to tell that story. After that comparison, I wanted to continue that I didn't expect such lack of enthusiasm here. Perhaps that vehemence I expected by personalities such as Paul Dirac has been shifted to other places on the other side of the ocean. You know during workers ruling in Russia we could observe a fever of discovering the nature deeper and deeper because "we love it and can cover our love by the outer cause that we are being under threat of the capitalists!" What about today Russia? That cause doesn't exist anymore: "We should do it to buy a holiday apartment and we should always put our resume on the Internet for any potential customer anywhere, preferably in California or New England." This dullness in the world in favour of consuming more is apocalyptic and needs attention of Messiah
Carlo DJ
Why? Do you mean consuming is bad and people should return to middle ages living their entire life with one set of clothings perhaps made out of the rough wool to hurt their bodies to prevent them to forget the harshness and sufferings of material mortal world to expect to get to the bless and eternal comfort of the other world after their death?
Yanis
Ah, yes.
Carlo DJ
To remember my sufferings in the panopticon.
Carlo DJ
Why remembering you is so important?
Yanis
Since they "don't know that they don't know." They believe that "They know!" But the reality is that that "I know that I don't know!" It is all the difference of The Prophet with one hundred thousand poets that were living among his people. One of them was a very educated man came to the prophet and said that he is believing him and would be honoured to work as His scribe since he was illiterate and had few scribes to write his 'inspirations' from the God. And it was after the time that He had established a small society in a safe place ruling them. After a while the mentioned scribe escaped from that society. When his people asked him about the Prophet and why he had renegaded. He said that there was no angle or anything could be seen 'The Man' goes in epileptic seizure (he used that word ‘epileptic’ concisely) and when comes back says nonsense things which are neither verse or proper prose and once I told him it is grammatically better to say "They shall learn" rather than as he told me to write "You shall learn" then he said "OK, whatever you like." The renegaded believed that “he knows!” After that they used to call The Prophet as if His name was “OK!” They used to go to him and say to him, “Are you OK?” And changed their intonation in a way to baffle him as a catch 22 that he could not understand they meant to mock him or asking him if he was fine. This is how the voice talks in one's head.
Carlo DJ
Well, destruction is not difficult. With a load of explosive you can destroy the Pisa tower or taadj mahal or a modern mega structured built bridge. How can you build them? All efforts of a big group of people, perhaps a nation should be gathered to create such monuments. With ten words you can make somebody mad dog frenzy. It is for that we say first it was words and words were with the God. If they become corrupted then it is time that Messiah comes to world. They become corrupted when the voice come in [its] living carcass and use them to ablaze the safe secured inner world, the global mind of human being.
Carlo DJ
I wanted you to know why they say Satan is one who brings the lantern or the torch. Satan has been erroded too much. And I'd rather the word 'Ahriman'. One who is against every mind, destroyer of every mind. And when the apocalypse come [it] comes in a material carcass to fight with Messiah.
Carlo DJ
Now, I leave these things aside for a while to report what is happening to my family and me. Until March of this year I used to go out and have a walk around the block. I already had harassing episodes of people shouting annoying cues. I normally used to ignore them. At this time, I noticed that the experimenting body that has incarcerated me does not know this much of intervention enough and gradually has asked people to approach too much to me. I felt that it seems that they wanted to become physically engaged to me, perhaps, in an attempt to create a pretext to involve the police. So from that time, I checked to go outside anymore, even for mowing the back lawn, I do it when my wife to be around to witness. In an occasion when I was out to mend some TV cabling and the door was open, one of the neighbours had pushed his dog, one of those scary pedigrees, inside our lounge. I moved backward and fell over a porcelain decorative flower bunch with sharp leaves over a side table and injured my hand. Pieces of that things pierced in the wood still shows that. Harassment of my wife and daughter is beyond any description and could constitute a separate book. We do not know whom we should complain. I am very cautious to keep me inside. I am frightened that my little family might loose my physical attendance to them. Although at home, jobless and apparently mentally ill, during last five years I could keep the house lights on such that this wretched hard-working woman, who is not allowed to become sick even for one day can go and under humiliating conditions that I am aware of work and bring bread to the family. Story Of my daughter has just started. Last year one of her maths questions, in AS level, was naming a device for weighing a thirty-three kilograms object. I have never told her that any number has any meaning in the world. She couldn’t answer that question only because she could find the relevance of the question. I also couldn't figure out its relevance with what she was taught. That question was there such that she come to me and ask me if I knew the relevance and make me angry to her such that later she can remember the episode of my anger and they can use it in future to continue the experiment done me on her. That caused her not to get perfect one hundred in the exam and got ninety-nine. This year they understood that ninety-nine is beyond of their plan for the future of my daughter and one of the questions given to her for A level maths was a lot of nonsense about a tank with three point three meter height and a hole at thirty three centimetre and something six point six meter; no not of those correct questions regarding tanks that they do in A level; a question with irrelevant out of context wordings. Perhaps they destroy her paper in couple of years to prevent them to come to sunshine like story of honourable Deputy-Sister Linda Bigwood A REVIEW OF 'THE KERR-HASLAM INQUIRY' By Phil Virden.
For attracting my attention, as they have described their operations, they frequently punish my daughter and my wife. My wife cannot find any job without informed consent of those people to add an annoying cue or hint for me and they have all the accounts to control our income such that it always remain in the edge of poverty and distress to prevent me to feel secure. One example is when she could find an agency job in a private hospital. They asked patients she cares not to give her that humble tip it is usual among wealthy patients they give to their nurses. You believe I am begging money. I had one hundred thousand pound secured to some people back there when I was leaving there and I believed them of trust. Now to help these two disaster beaten women living with me, I asked them to send it to me. They have been advised by the incarcerating authority here that they should not send the money and bring some excuses for me as it is not possible right now for them and it is more than three years. See they go for nose jobs to their own doctors but there is some Mrs someone who has come to Harley Street here and every body believes the job is drastically in another class. Now if somebody tells them that they are treating my supposed mental illness here they understand it in the same category of nose jobs and think that Freud is in charge of me and do not know that I was in Shenley Street and not Harley Street and doctor was writing my name on his hand with my own pen and Police has come and arrested me in front of my daughter to show phallus of their ruler to us and has created criminal record for me without any pretext and I pay insurance company for private doctors and I have not seen a doctor for four years or a test or medication for my hypertension, and when I saw it was after two years of begging and he ignored me such that he forgot to listen to my heart, and they take my legal benefits I have as my right as somebody who has worked here and give it to volunteers to come at the middle of the night and When I want to take my fingers from my ears to listen to early morning birds they shout annoying cues. And when I want to kiss my wife in the midnight they telephone and they pants to condition me and then publish a lot of nonsense in an Elsevier Journal that becomes forgotten even before coming to print. I ask in the name of humanity, only for the sake of these two housemaids accompanying me that some human rights activists and lawyers with enough motivation come to arena and ask for disclosure of my situation and then learn what they have done every day to my family and me. They have burned my house to prevent it catches fire.
Carlo DJ
At the beginning four or five years ago, I used to jog from Qanshanger to Estevenage or Crookmanspark; I mean nearby towns around. Then my wife would pick me and we used to go to have a drink or something. Then they started to harass me when I was with my wife. Even, in an occasion when of their agents were briefing the shop assistant I was behind it and I heard that [it] was instructing the assistant to come and harass me by cueing phrases. Then I stopped that little pleasure and we never went out in such a way. Actually they arranged that my wife become punished for my supposed mental illness and the poor cow suffered and suffered, and that pressed my heart to extreme agony. Only God knows how much she suffered and as usual forgot it in a way that people become black out under traumatizing events.
Carlo DJ
Then they started to send people to harass me on the roads. It was at this time that they advised Dr Rural to prescribe vastatine pills for me. That was the last blow to my dream of participating in a London marathon. I became bed bound for months due to muscular damage that pill brought for me. Gradually I used physiotherapists’ elastic ribbons and recovered a bit, but most of the time limping. First day those ribbons were prescribed by for me when I was suffering from capsulitis and for fifty pence I would take a piece from Iarpenden CUPA hospital. Then it became a Herculean task to get one of them. The hospital said they cannot sell it and should buy it from a shop. I couldn't go to shop and when my wife went to a sport centre nearby to buy it. they only could sell three meter and thirty centimetres pieces and price was three pounds thirty pence and the quality was the least strength of the bands.
I could walk around a bit. But they harassed me frequently. In an occasion they unlashed one of those ferocious dog with a collar of some award and it jumped on me with dangerous teeth. The owner came calmly to the dog and when I protested [it] said to me with a jeering tone that the dog was suffering from the mental illness and needs therapy.
Carlo DJ
And that walking was very good for my strength and my age and brought hope for longevity and dreaming of seeing a day of freedom. And they purposefully barred me from that to shorten my life to prevent me from witnessing against them. Now some days I do a bit of rope skipping and going up and down of staircase at home. Regretfully, I guess that these types of physical stress are not good and much help in my age and it cannot replace an hour of walking. Even when I was much younger and stronger and already I wrote for you about it when I had to work in a remote construction site in desert and on the see level and I suffered much since I couldn't escape from harassment even during the night and round the clock and they didn't permit me, in a way that I explained, to do my regular exercise and I was suffering from lack of socialisation and association with friends what happened to me. Now that thing again is happening to me in an older age that I need more care and caution. The other day when I bent to take the plate of cat food suddenly I got stunt by a sharp pain in centre of my chest going to the back of my chest. In a moment I said that now it happened. Gradually, since due to prolapsed disk, I have a degenerate spine I guessed that it could be from that and pain was moving toward the ulcers that I have in duodenal and in stomach so I took a couple of over the counter medicines and rested and now I am better and decided to change the path of discourse to report my personal and family condition that now we are living, in a hurry to keep them for the future reference and if I could survive a bit I continue my former discussion regarding The Grand Unified Theory. One thing that I have experienced, as we also have in the Book of Job is that ‘Ahriman’, as ultimate of black witch crafts, can induce physical pain remotely on the body of [its] victim. So if I have a memory or a point of real physical pain around the point that [it] induces pain then that becomes a very painful frustrating stabbing pain. That prevents my body to evaluate the extent and existence of any ailment to make me cautious about it and I have to disregard it now that I have not any access to any medical examination.
Carlo DJ
You are suffering consequences of your free choice. That only shows that you have an impaired decision making and if you change it, they understand that you are making sane decision based on a health volition and might revise their judgement about you.
Yanis
Now, you get the answer that you give to your question asked me two years ago regarding the girl who is a bit drunk and has leather jacket or mini-skirt, I can't remember which one is more stereotype and she is flirting with young blokes in the pub. That means she is allowed to be raped by a fat old man watching the scene. She tolerates consequences of her free choices? Hmm? Do you want me to analyse the circumstances concluding to the rape or Talcott Parsons or Perry Mason?
It was showing in Documentary channel a super-max prison. Prisoners were alone and with anything available such as a pencil would injure their own bodies up to ripping their own tummies. When they took one of the injured inmates to the nurse for bandage and care (what is the English word for paansseh-maan) though his hands were scuffed and his feet shackled, in a rare moment he attacked with his head to the innocent poor nurse. Nothing happened. The nurse only panicked and got a godsend one-month rest from that melancholic place. The prisoner term from twelve years increased to fifteen years within a judgement of one hour or so. They said the man receiving consequence of his choice. They said all of them were receiving consequences of their choices in the super-max prison. Is that a correct and civilised idea? What if that nurse was my wife or the prisoner was my brother or if I was the judge? What is the root of injustice? Nobody has time for that? Hmm? Now we should go for lunch? Hmm?
But one of them said something. He said that coming to this level of super-max prison for a prisoner is the consequence of their own choices and hence it is another useless instruments of punishment. This comprehension, although still unfair, needs a bit of wit, which is far from a prison warden.
Carlo DJ
What is fair then?
Yanis
Those poor souls were nver given any choice at all.
Carlo DJ
I do not mean any other choice. I mean any choice at all, they never had.
Carlo DJ
So, it came out that I have not been out of my house for more than four months. Moreover, if I go near windows or in the garden, in few minutes some body shout an annoying cue in a debasing manner or if I look out of my windows somebody shows a cueing action. And they do it in a painful way such that I become brainwashed feeling in edge that at any moment somebody will assault me. And I have checked in the darkest and most confined place of the house. I have noticed that even at that place they try to annoy me but they do not succeed. They cannot yell savagely frequently, so I can't recognize the words uttered in foreign accent. But as always I can recognize cues from normal talking by pre-languge settings of human global mind, and I test to see if they have stopped yet or not. As I said, normally these things punish my wife and my daughter. The last time I went out it was for refuelling the car in the winter. Since I could do it with no or minimum contact I was happy and it was like a great leisure for me. As I pushed the handle, suddenly the pump shut down. I looked to the window of garage, where the assistant was showing his stretched arm with his middle finger. I did not know what to do. I left the garage without fuel. At night, when my wife was back from the work, exhausted she took the car to garage in addition of doing everything out of home and I could remember that never when we were anywhere and she was driving I would allow her to fuel the car. Now, my health has become deteriorated and I have reduced food to a minimum and due to stress I cannot reduce it more. As already I mentioned when ‘The Thing’, that is, ‘Ahriman’ comes on earth from the darkness it makes everything upside down: safe becomes unsafe. Unsafe becomes safe!
Carlo DJ
What about my two dependants, if I can use this word for them since actually I am their dependant? They are living in a void. They do not have memory of any life. My daughter is living in a pendant no-space. My wife can't remember anything, traumatized. She is from a clan, in contrast to me that have been grown lonely under a bush. She was used to an all the time socialization like our other former compatriots, with the door open and every lunch time somebody there and every evening some guests around or they were guest somewhere relatives or dozens of intimidate friends. And after a year she was sentenced to live as if she is a banished to a nowhere. All these were done to her and to my daughter with the pretext that they were doing this to make me healthy and social. Where is healthy and social. People died. Younger became elder. Little children grew and become educated and married and got children themselves, there is no sign, even no hint that now I have become treated or even settled to go back to them and now they behave like human with me. You future generations that read these sentences do you believe that in the scheme that plotted for me there is any return to social life for me. No, I never become valid for my own soul. I have been trafficked to this society that keeps the individuals in the memory of the Cyclops. It is not possible for me to conceive during the short time that has remained for me to go anywhere and assume that I am not under persecution. There is no social, no relation for me. There is no gauge checking my mental health. Assume they stop. They can start at any time for no reason, as it happened the first day. You might notice this if you go to (I do not name that country. It is not my former country. It is neighbouring to them.) They show bears dancing and clowning. Before each piece of movement the minstrel waves his staff serendeptitiousely, without anybody notice. Some people like Wolfgang Strauss can notice it, instead of watching the show. Face of poor creature twists and twitches as if in great pain feeling inside his magnificent body and then reluctantly performs that piece of the episode.
Carlo DJ
After a year that this disaster happened to us, I looked at the face of my young wife. Ah, what is that? Perhaps it has a DSM description. That face was broken beyond any explanation. It was a long time we had not any visitor and we were not anywhere outdoor. Everywhere we were or when people had come to visit us I had become mad dog angry, depressed and sometimes insulting without she can understand why. I told her from that day she had to go out with her parents and our daughter around and they should live life as much as possible like a widow and an orphan. It was the time that we supposed to plan for our second child that never happened. This decision helped her to regain her appearance back, but with a new syndrome. She has been living in a void memory-less lonely world without having a past or knowing anybody. She, like me, will never have the opportunity to live a valid life in this country. Already everybody knows her as a zoo animal for carnival of psychiatry here.
Carlo DJ
Why you insisted that it was not your former country? What is the difference for you. Let them believe it is your native place. Also, you mentioned some amount of money. Since you talk a bit weird, people might think you are making stories. Do you have any witness?
Yanis
Yes, it is important. They are very near to us in different aspects of culture and behaviour. Actually they had passed historically the process of unification with ours. But due to smelly material discovered in our side and also due to introduction of imported nationalism and modern boundaries and passport and many other recent things some ancient things disappeared in our side. You remember that you accused me that I was watching cock fighting. It is something that even my father who was born in nineteen-oh-one didn't see. Once I asked him why the newspaper cartoonist called himself "Cock d'Allary"? He said since d'Allary cocks were very attacking in fighting and the artist believed himself as very aggressive. Then I asked him if he ever had watched such a fight. He said his grandfather had seen it.
I have a reason to say this. When I said some poor soul might have committed to such orgy or whatever and it cannot be the basis for his social condemnation, you believed that it was a self-betrayal of my own soul and inadvertently I confessed that I was watching cock-fighting. The concept of justice emerges here. I said that because the previous night I was watching a TV documentary depicting drug dealers of our other next super-opium power. Their leisure was watching cock fighting, and that looked very mean to my eyes and it remained on the verge of my memory near to my tongue as an example of vagary. I didn't do that but because I was not impromptu as a social orator it lapsed out of my mind. Now, what then? If police had arrested me and asked me if I was in such orgy the previous night, I definitely would act as a suspicious and with a lack of alibi they would have charged me.
When you say it is the free choice of those inmates of super-max prison that brought them to that destiny you are not cautious on your judgement. It can be extrapolated to my situation, as well. This needs expansion further. But for your other remark, if I make story; no, since I do not talk with anybody. My wife calls them and I have asked her to implore them and she knows all the details and it has documents and reference numbers and she can witness.
Carlo DJ
It seems that you do not believe that people have responsibility and accountability towards what they do. In that case, then, society and judge and prison wardens and police and everybody else will benefit from your reasoning in being innocent. They have strong arguments why they are unfair towards the convicted and wrongly convicted. They are low paid and creditors rub them and had bad parents and have domestic problems and were born with cruel genes and poisoneous climate in industrialised city has deranged their brains and thousands other causes.Hmm?
Yanis
Excellent!
What?..Nahh!
Yes, nobody has a choice or any other choice. We have only (those should be angled brackets, and read from right to left) [choice | whim].You can have a whim in your choice and if you do not like it [whim | choice]. You have a choice of your whim. If you like to have a role then: [choice | actor | whim] or [whim | actor | choice]
Carlo DJ
Now, I found a gentleman, with somehow similar or relevant ideas derived from quantum mechanics. I didn't read anything from him except front page of his website. He even has declared that at this time these ideas come to mind of many people due to the fact that human beings are sharing their minds. He, Dr Fred Alan W-o-l-f is a retired professor of physics and author of numerous publications and internationally known lecturer. Harrison ford has narrated one of his works in discovery channel. Well, they get what I have in-subject.
Carlo DJ
There I found another gentleman, Mr Moon. He seems leading a cult. We do not have similar ideas, though he has had very hard times when very young.
Carlo DJ
Allow me to add few words regarding Mr Moon sufferings. It is not similar to Christ's sufferings. He had participated in a fair game political activity with predictable and known consequences that before hand he had committed himself to endure. His adversaries were also acting in a human fair way. They banned him and warned him and when he had escaped they used human ways to search and find his whereabouts and acted proportionately. He had friends and relatives and associates. He could hide or chose alternative methods. He could indulge him with pleasure of hiding water and washing chemicals fouls from his body to struggle for his health and well being. He didn't hear voices or claiming he was Son of God. He was an average normal political activist to establish a cult or a party with some friends and some foes, with defined targets and framework volunteered for those consequences with free will and choice. How can he compare with Jesus Christ? Jesus Christ sufferings according to all known stories happened in an Aristotelian unification of time and space in a single day of humiliation by making him April fool type king with a crown of thorns and lashing him and shaming him in streets to carry his own cross thirsty and then crucify him with a swift passionate killing used to be done by nailing in the veins of his wrists. We know the actual suffering of Jesus was something beyond understanding of any human and unique to Him. Those of political activists or those attributed to Jesus Christ in the stories are something frequent, everywhere, at anytime. They are not unique.
Carlo DJ
What about this Austrian girl we recently read in news? She was buried alive in a bomb bunker by his father to be the subject of constant rape and incest when she was only seventeen and was looking forward which nice polite young lad comes forward to take her to her world of dreams and bring children for his own father and her children remain beside her to become new subjects of constant rape of their father and grand-father and husband without experiencing any world outside their little confined sepulchre. She has been there from her puberty and adolescence and adulthood to her menopause.
Carlo DJ
As much I tell about her you can better understand what was the suffering of Messiah. She is much more near to Jesus Christ than, say David Kurosh or Mr Moon. "Are you ready to be buried alive everyday and then visit your wife and your daughter in the evening?" "If you are happy to bury them with you, I am happy, too." "I can arrange for that." These are what "Ahriman" told to Messiah many millenniums before we read the story of the Austrian girl.
Carlo DJ
What you expect from the monster. Perhaps with some effort he could read the mind of the wretched girl. He could create few cueing words such as thirty-three and arrange everything to coincide with that number: her examination marks, her lockers, her wage, her grant. Then everybody tell her that they hear frequencies in their heads as a talent from the noise of train wheels that others cannot hear to make her ready for the rape. That monster could start to read the mind of his victim. Perhaps, he was first in his generation. What happens if such a carcass of human were nurtured for forty generation, a thousand years? It becomes muonium. It becomes the pure voice that is enemy of human being. Has he got tails and horns and fiery eyes and long teeth or looks like Buffy's monsters and vampires? It is like muonium. It looks like a human. A carcass of flesh without spirit of human ready made for reading the minds of human and "knows" what is going on in their minds. [It] is the finder and pointer to the navigator and central command of the global mind of humanity: sanctuary of salmons.
Carlo DJ
I again with another wording, proved that muonium can exist.
Carlo DJ
Now, Yanis I like to discuss free choices of the Austrian girl with you and see if she was tolerating the consequences of her choice. Perhaps we should not ask her. Due to living in the darkness she might lie. We should go and ask the monster or perhaps her mother. They are social with relations. Perhaps we should ask the girl if she believed that the monster was using wit and sarcasm and allegory and had provided a protecting safe (even against the nuclear attacks) for his spawns.
If later people beat them or do long fasts and keep themselves thirsty in remembrance of that girl they are not wrong or masochists. They have been around and watching it and they were approving it and they were collaborating with the perpetrator.
Carlo DJ
There is an interesting insect in the nature that helps us to understand what is muonium in the context of our discourse. This insect bites its victim in a way that the victim does not die. It remains alive but without any power of movement, all paralysed and witness to his situation, a gradual painful death in darkness without any body hear him or believe him that he could and can move if it was not for the poison of the predator in his spine. The stinging insect then release [its] spawns on the body of the victim, allowing them to feed from him. When they become mature the victim is at the end of his life. The biting insect does that due to the fact that if [it] spawns on a dead body that would be decayed and competing living things might consume it. The biting insect creates a safe and protected environment for growth of its spawns. It does not let the victim alive that it goes and enjoys the life.
Carlo DJ
You see Yanis, if I just go and tell, "Doctor, doctor there is somebody looks like you and me and [it] can read my mind with my own precision and asks people to suffer me and people obey [it] and this is what happened to Moses and Jesus and Mo-hammad" then you might tell me that I should take stelazine or I should suffer electrocution or be incarcerated or ask me to change material reality of the world on your request, as it is attributed to those people. Or you might wonder how this has happened and why on the earth somebody might like my suffering without having any known animosity with me. So I have a long way to prove it for you by giving examples and elicit your inductive cognition and make comparison to lead you to deduction and use the ultimate of contemporary knowledge of nature and bring instances and not fully fledged types of [it] to persuade you to revise your callousness towards absorbing new ideas and having a second thought about what I advertise.
Carlo DJ
Another episode was the movie one of my former compatriot made many years ago titled as 'Postman' was story of a rural postman who couldn't do it when he married and his bride was virgin after a year or two. Well, in a village around them there was not any doctor whom he can refer and ask for cure or treatment. There was only a vet who supposed to treat and vaccine animals. What he knew about sex was what he knew about copulation of cows and sheep. But instead of knowledge he had courage. He advised the man to have an all the time pocket full of cannabis seeds. (This is what people used in very small with yellow peas and wheat salted and roasted and gave them to children as snack at the time that these modern snacks were not available and they knew what it was and it was helpful for settling children during puberty and help them sleep well at night and they know men should not consume it if they want to remain potent). The poor postman should have regular daily dose of those seeds, should avoid eating meats or too much food, doing everything that all people believe reduces a man potency and avoiding everything that people believe increases it. When it was afternoon and he had finished his job he was working as a valet to the local feudal. He was also his butcher killing sheep of feudal that the vet couldn't find cure for their disease. But all flock of sheep were dying of the disease without the vet doing anything for them and the postman slaughter and slaughtering everyday. It was when the son of the feudal came back graduated from Germany with a German wife and at night the couple were chasing each other at naked at nights playing hide and seek and the feudal watching surreptitiously telling to himself "This is the way of f*cking!" Every night they had feudal types enormous feasts and the Postman was valeting. When people had left the dinning room the postman who should clean the place wanted to consume a bit of the remained food that in his delirium of cannabis seeds the vet would appear like he knows that the man wants to transgress his advice alarming him against eating. In occasion when he was disposing empty bottles of consumed drinks he heard a familiar moaning (I do not know the English word for that sexual moaning of a woman. I cannot remember) of a familiar tone from a nearby window. Yes, it was his young bride delivering service to the feudal son. Now, the son who had been educated as the agriculture engineer in Germany had a new idea about the remaining sheep: "They all should be slaughtered. This is a modern time and we should raise pork for export and local high class consumption" and all the bulldozers had come from the city and demolishing the old adobes and erecting prefab silos and husbandries when the Postman got the rifle of the feudal from his mansion and came to the feudal and his son aiming at the son to kill him for that dishonour he had witnessed. But, alas! Feudal said, “You s.o.b. eating from my ass thought you could outsmart me in anything. Don’t you know I never leave a gun with ammunition in it!” Then he took the gun from him and slapped in his face. The postman couldn’t afford the harsh target went to the soft one at home and killed her with the sheep-slaughtering knife. When arrested people started to judge him. “He was Crazy. He was silent. He was brutal. He was cruel. He always was chewing something.” Yes, that was political and symbolic, at that time before changing government etc. He meant intellectuals who were like the vet opiating masses in contrary of what they should do. They are not doctors to help potency and erection of masses. There are new generation of educated people who are not intellectuals who only can pigging and f*cking the masses and they are against their own background. This man is internationally known in the cinema circles. He made that movie only to be honoured to be quoted by Messiah
Carlo DJ
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