Thursday, November 03, 2005

New blog

New blog for critical psychiatry - please post your comments.

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Peter Jones said...

Well, then?
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

I want to clear that they create a law, apparently, to avert the risk but its net result is creating more risk, and besides, inflicting damage to innocent people. I'd like to show that if the motivation of the legislator is protection of fifty lives then he believes that fifty lives are important whoever they are. Hence, he should not only intervene when the death is accompanied with some noises in the society and ignores the silent death, and killing of scores of other people. A classical reason, I heard only in this country, for murder committed by a lunatic, was that he believed that the deceased had been 'Devil'. It seems that the legislators, reciprocally, have the same idea about 'mentally ill', and admit their silent killings accordingly.
Cyrus

Peter Jones said...

What do you want to say? Make it straight.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

I want to say that even if you can assume the risk of abuse and wrong diagnosis of lunatics is as low as the risk of murder by the lunatics then the legislator has no rush to avert or reduce that risk. He only wants to find justification, excuse, and pretext for a law, which is toward increasing of limitations on freedom and liberty of individuals. That put individuals in a destructive loop. The destructive loop increases the risk. It is related to moral behaviour as advertised already in Mad'dieu Grand Unified Theory. Social behaviour is an instance of moral behaviour from shared global mind of human beings. It is learned and adapted by individuals externally and punishment or encouragement has no effect on its adoption.
Cyrus

Peter Jones said...

I do not understand.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

When you have two million people and you can select any of them for detention and that detention mechanism is already working very well towards its mission and have a good record and background showing its past services then you have a powerful artillery of control against the liberty of the society.
Cyrus

Peter Jones said...

That mechanism, even their most traditional ones, has reiterated that they are not eager to work as the tools of social control. Also, the law forbids detention of people for their political attitude.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

It is like when you take a shy boy to the candy shop. He does not know how to plunder. Who then give consultation to authority for open-end detention to have enough time (for example fifty years) to cure somebody who has come by a mistake to them for a minor problem of unemployment? Also, if you leave authority unleashed then he can find, very easily, proper people for accomplishing his missions, and they create enough legal reasons for their correctness. In this Mecca of democracy, you know that forty years ago Mr James Bond was eavesdropping the prime minister of his country. Besides mines and mills, Mr Bond has shut down the universities of his country without anybody notices it. Whatever they need to learn they can learn in their employment enterprise. Universities teach them how. Universities are paid mostly by those enterprises to meet that demand. There remains nothing for developing a multi-dimensional soul when you are under twenty-one.
Leonardo diPardo

Peter Jones said...

I believe, that again you are acting. You were talking about Mr Brown; now you are saying Mr Bond. I also emphasised that they do nort detain anybody for his political attitude. What you said about universities has some positive points.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

Mr Brown with his muscular body and his golden hair and his oval shaped ball in his hands still is standing on my side. He is the promised nation of Mad’dieu and goes in street and protest against injustice wherever it happens and whatever is its pretext.
Manny Butterfly

Peter Jones said...

Not enough. You should declare clearly your very positive attitude towards Mr Brown.
Mad'dieu Bourbaki

Peter Jones said...

Later we write with detail in the style of Tocqueville in commendation of the Mad'dieu nation.
Wolfgang Strauss

Peter Jones said...

Yes, here is the home of millions and millions of noble brother workers and kind-hearted intellectuals. Now let me continue. We are Latin minded. We do not want to impress the jury. We want to discover facts and find out more details about the reality rather than prove or disprove by impression.
You do not know who has what political attitude when he is eighteen, or when there is no controversy around. Adrian Monk goes and stands in front of the fighter jet when he deems it necessary to establish the justice by doing that. At that time Manny Butterfly goes and hides under the bed. Law allows Mr Bond to work legally in the cellar and recognise and detain Adrian Monk for his potential real danger and give medication to Manny Butterfly for his lunacy and is very indifferent to their political attitude. Neither Adrian Monk nor Manny Butterfly ever join to a political party that their comrades come and protest to their detention. They are part of the jelly phase multitude.
Leonardo diPardo

Peter Jones said...

So the authority prefers to keep that tool for himself just in case of having some use, and he has quite few uses for such a powerful tool; that you can lockup somebody and he cannot challenge and if he challenge you can nail him to the floor and keeping him in that situation looks a charitable, necessary action rather than a callous cruelty. This is the reason that during the sixties and seventies and up to present time Goffman and Scheff and Rosenhahn and Lacan and 'Commone di Trieste' and Habermas and other intellectuals and human rights activists and peace and green activist and others believe to abolishing forceful institutionalising and the emancipation of lunatics not because they wanted to offer the best available treatment to lunatics and because the costumers are not happy about the received services. They also believe if someone without pretext attacked to you or shouts in the middle of an opera or similar irresponsible actions you should take him and charge him with proportionate court and punishment. Their motivation is extension of civil liberties and implementing more safeguards against ad hoc exertion of power by the authority. On the hand authority also very carefully and very clearly understands that the problem is not services and that it should not leave easily and without a serious fight its fortifications and relinquish to whims of trouble making hippies. It makes manoeuvres and starts from a high bid price and waste the time until the hippies scatter and forget what was their aim and proletariats become engaged in the mortgage; then authority moves his fortifications ahead instead of going back. Emancipation of lunatics is not for the customer services, but it is for human rights and civil liberties.
Leonardo diPardo

Peter Jones said...

So you believe they should not give service to 'mentally ill', hmm?
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

"When 'One Hundred' comes to me- Then I already have 'The Ninety'."
Rumi

Peter Jones said...

We were discussing the fifty murders allegedly committed by 'mentally ill' and wanted to investigate if detention of so many sufferers of mental illness as a measure of prevention is useful, just, and workable solution towards it. We noticed that in each stage of sieving out the murderers from the society to fulfil its risk averting desire there exists the actual risk of equal number of abuse and sudden death, gradual death silent and non-silent, covert and overt death of many of incarcerated individuals. Out of the fifteen thousand that authority has approved to be incarcerated, at least twenty percent are easily subject to receive such a treatment. Besides, it is believed that, even those fifty murders committed by ‘mentally ills’ is the consequence of that type of intervention. That takes us to the proposition that exerting the establishment power of control over odd behaving individuals is not actually a facilitator for averting some residual risk in a corner of the society.
Cyrus

Peter Jones said...

This is an American organisation. Do we have a similar institution here? I could not find out.
"The AHRP mission is to stand up - and speak out - for the human rights of research subjects - especially those who are vulnerable and /or susceptible to coercion, manipulation and exploitation. Those who are incapable of exercising their right to informed consent are in greatest need of protection from research abuse.
Disadvantaged children are sought as human guinea pigs - even toddlers and infants, some living in foster care;
Elderly people with impaired reasoning capacity, some living in nursing homes;
People disabled by mental or physical illness;
Illegal immigrants and disadvantaged populations living in underdeveloped countries;
Prisoners, including members of the armed forces."
Manny Butterfly

Peter Jones said...

Mental health alliance says, "Patients should only be detained against their will if it will benefit their health."
Well, they always say we detain only for the benefits that have for the health. Even slavers believed slavery was for the benefit and protection of slave. In my previous country they say, "Women should stay at home for their own safety." They stone them to death for the health of the family. You can create a lot of these things: "You should torture the detainee only if you are sure that they have useful information (they say he has). You can beat pupils if it is of benefit to their behaviour (they say it is). You can lock your child in the cellar if it has benefit to him (they say it has)." They say if occasionally it was not of benefit then go complain to European court. Then perpetrator apologises if the court believed you and you could prove.
Cyrus

Peter Jones said...

Another stance of this alliance is that they have sent petition to government to make the law in a way that they come and take you sooner, perhaps when you are fourteen or even when you are a toddler. In this way they have planned to open the way for early age screening of anybody that in future would create any slightest motion in art, poetry, literature, fashion, music, mathematics, physics, shop floor, anything; yes, indeed anything.
Leonardo diPardo

Peter Jones said...

I do not believe you are correct in that judgment.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

No, allow me to transfer my experience of life. I have been in many places. I am an old person and it is late for me to tailor a bag for crumbs of the table. I have seen such types of alliances in very naked forms. They ask you what is your message. Then they know your message. Then they tell you, "Don't worry; go and sleep because we are wide awake and we will send your message!" Then they send another message in your name.
Leonardo diPardo

Peter Jones said...

If you do not like, then do not join them.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

I am from Switzerland and my neutral position does not allow me to join. I mean when you are shaky and shabby and cold and have been kicked from any door you might join to any whisper of hope.
Leonardo diPardo

Peter Jones said...

Having said these, we want to see what happens when you are so shackled and in the strait jacket are in the hands of psychiatry. I assume that your psychiatrist who should decide about your release is the sixty-year-old dean of the faculty of psychiatry in the Yale, Cornel, John Hopkins, wherever you say. He is professor, author of twenty books, three hundred papers. He even might be advisor to congress. He might have received honours from kings and the Nobel Prize. Why should I assume you a gibberish lunatic? Let me assume you a young colleague of him waiting to be tenured. Only Szasz has noticed this before. Now you are full of passion. You write something against all beliefs of the dean. It is very exciting for you. You are mad about that idea. What happens to you when in the committee you should be tenured? He knows one hundred ways and reasons to put you out. He is tough and to get to that position he already is a full rank mother f*cker. Here is the Szasz point when he says he first acquired his tenure and then published his innovative idea that was against the mainstream suppositions. Now what happens to a feeble mentally ill in those caring honest hands? First when they detain him they are kind and they are doing it for his well being. Then months and years goes and the poor detainee sees no glimmer of any hope or well being or improvement in sadistic and dysfunctioning operation that they do to him. Gradually, he starts to react and protest in some way. Sometimes he manages to outsmart the perpetrators. These rare occasions make those people angry and they start to revenge in the name of preventing act out and ploys and cheatings. Then fifty years pass and the responsible person for his detention never decides that now he should come back home. This is the reason that they fight for emancipation of lunatics not because the lunatics ask them to come and detain them sooner for benefits of the customer services.
Manny Butterfly

Peter Jones said...

"One hundred thousand spears of Pharaoh’s men vanquished by the stick of Moses – One hundred thousand Galenious of Caesar bowed down to Jesus – One hundred thousand poets of Arabs surrendered to an illiterate!"
Rumi

Peter Jones said...

I could not understand . I guess, you again mixed your discussion with the issues of academics and such. What is your concern?
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

We do not have any concern about any transient and the so-called earthly issues when we are developing the Grand Unified Theory. It is that we are clearing the scene by examining situations that includes real valid people who supposedly should be able to challenge their rights but their rights become easily ignored by some one in position of trust. From that we want to reject the idea that a lunatic right in the hands of a social worker or mental health professional is subject to well intention of an impartial doctor, who is the agent of well being in the eyes of the legislator.
Cyrus

Peter Jones said...

We also want to clear that liberal and passionate minds of intellectuals whose ideas are arrows penetrating the future of mankind do not defending freedom of odd behaving people for the benefits of customers or such. They know societies due to scarce of resources frequently slip into the crisis and individuals of humans are in constant fight with nature to extend those resources. Authority, in those crisis starts from the weakest to curtail the freedom of the whole society. Here, survival of the kind goes into debt to weakest of individual not the most powerful. Nature has put this lock in the evolution that at the pinnacle of evolution altruism plays the role of the ram's horn for human being. This is the secret we bring. Other things are very well known and very well explained by Habermas, and Bertrand Russell and Rumi, and Wittgenstein and Hugo, and a galaxy of other stars. We clearly know what is the idea of each of them. Ours is a little different and incorporating all of them.
Wolfgang Strauss

Peter Jones said...

I mean if a verbal, eloquent, functional, 'normal' person might become victim of sly bullying due to asserting righteously himself in the hands of a very learned personality whose sustenance is not due to his decision about the victim then what will be the destiny of a shaky gibberish tortured, stripped of his rights, mentally ill in the hands of some very careless and churlish mental health professional and social workers. Has anybody in the authority done any study of risk assessment for the other direction of the road? It is not that always Manny Butterfly is the victim. How many times you have heard the story that the victim is told that nobody will believe her or his story. " Who people would believe, me or you?"
Cyrus

Peter Jones said...

Now, why should people have freedom? Freedom gradually brings chaos. No, freedom is the cradle of the autonomy: to become godly and to become god.
Hormuz

Peter Jones said...

"Two minds: Douglas R. Hofstadter says his brain runs a copy of his late wife’s mind."
Strange Ways
A weaving together of minds, machines, and mathematics

Grant Hardy

Peter Jones said...

Is the above mentioned gentleman, Mr Douglas R. Hofstadter, a kind of Karl Sagan lord of the geeks?
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

"In 1979, Douglas R. Hofstadter became the philosophers’ version of a rock star, and a smashing success with computer scientists, with the publication of the Pulitzer Prize–­winning Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid. A hefty tome that tied together the esoteric theorems of Kurt Gödel, the paradoxical drawings of M.C. Escher, and the multilayered compositions of J.S. Bach, Hofstadter’s intellectual tour de force was filled with insights into the nature of mathematics, music, consciousness, and the possibility of creating artificially intelligent self‑aware machines.

Now, almost 30 years later, in a much shorter work, Hofstadter has returned to one of the themes of his 1979 opus, believing it to have been somewhat overshadowed by the rest of the book. What is this overlooked gem? That we owe our self-awareness to the existence of 'strange loops'."
Grant Hardy

Peter Jones said...

We do not know. But he is one of the many at the beginning to understand our Grand Unified Theory. It seems that he has had a very strong tie with his late wife. More importantly, I believe, he is also at the beginning of hearing voices, just in the threshold. All is consistent with the Grand Unified Theory. Having trauma from the love of his wife, that does not guarantee that he could hear 'angel' voices. If the channel opens into the global mind, devil is more likely, almost certain, to come.
Ant'hony Queen

Peter Jones said...

We reached to the point that our survival could be in debt of protecting the weak. For example, human being protects his child longer than other animals. In some stage the boundary becomes blurred if the parents protect the child or child protects the parent. We give our experience to our child; instead, he does not leave us to be eaten by the wolves in the winter. Both are weak and mutually protecting the other. Another example, a young who cannot come to hunting, instead he keeps the fire better than others. Mozart cannot fart like 'us' but instead can play piano better than 'us'. Dali is eccentric but can better understand the 'space'. Delton John could not date with girls in the school – I mean perhaps – but could sing better love songs. Because of our mind functioning we do not know who is fittest who is weak who is powerful. By the navigator command we protect all and each one of us, in case one rescue the others. Besides Mad’dieu who knows in this world who is in charge of what? Perhaps if they had not terminated lunatics in Nazi Germany, those poor souls would have prayed them to win the war and their prayers would be accepted. Old jews that they put in the furnace could not make roads but sometimes knew five languages. They could not use a hammer with their hands but could caress head of their grand children. Earlier we said the little finger of the boy could stop demolishing a country from flooding. We know now that it is possible from the Book of Noah we understand its meaning. It needs that only one soul gets to spring of salmons. That single one is all the salmons. He weaves back the universe when the Ark settles on the mountain. We do not know who is weak and dysfunction and who is able and functional. Nature has hidden it from us. There is always a surprise behind the next bend.
Hormuz

Peter Jones said...

The Israeli journalist Amira Hass describes the moment her mother, Hannah, was marched from a cattle train to the Nazi concentration camp at Bergen-Belsen. “They were sick and some were dying,” she says. “Then my mother saw these German women looking at the prisoners, just looking. This image became very formative in my upbringing, this despicable ‘looking from the side’.”
You can compare the practice of leader of workers in the Second World War with the arrogance of Nazi Germans. Though he was a materialist he did not eliminate the idea of praying people and asked them to join to defending forces by their prayer if they could not offer any other help.
Hence Lacan or Habermas or other 'iskras' – they are embers from Mad’dieu’s heart – could be chic hippies that might grip their nose when passing by the Manny Butterfly; it is not important. They correctly know that when the waves of freedom ebb and recess, 'they' start it from the purported weakest individuals that their elimination looks as if it brings no harm to society and perhaps it opens space for the useful ones; they continue to next weakest until it comes a day that they come and knock your door. You should lock the flood at its outset.
Leonardo diPardo

Peter Jones said...

Therefore, we can reduce the axiom of the Grand Unified Theory for emancipation of lunatics to our fight with the hostility of nature. It is a year we are struggling to reach to its proposition form. That puts it in the correct way.
Cyrus

Peter Jones said...

Because we do not know who is in charge of what. It is because of this: [Decision|Actor|Whim] (remember Dirac bracket). Behind the curtain there is another curtain, ad infinitum.
Grant Hardy

Peter Jones said...

We cannot consider much of the transient daily affairs, but as it happens that this shooting in the US university can help us using Mad’dieu Grand Unified Theory We have a hint regarding it. The doctor who had seen the killer on the request of the court did not believe that he had been a lunatic. This was one opinion based on the laws that accept non-voluntary commitment to hospital. The psychiatrist of the Fox news channel also explained that there was no sign that the man was lunatic. If some body wants to take advantage to justify compulsory psychiatry he faces equal problem of access to fire arms so easily. Perhaps if the man had not access to a gun he could injure only one person at most.
Manny Butterfly

Peter Jones said...

Nevertheless, media especially here, are continuing to label him as the madman's killer; calling the atrocity is done by the sick mind.
Leonardo diPardo.

Peter Jones said...

Some believe (assuming that he was a lunatic) that if he had been coerced to be institutionalised at the hospital this event never would have happened.
Conversely, it is completely the other way. If it were not for the coercion, labelling, and stigma of the psychiatry, that student would become aware of possible help of a psychiatry/psychologist and could openly participate in any advised helpful program. That country is very wealthy and can provide for these expenses. If you read newspapers of the nineteen fifties, they believed the killer was homosexual as well as lunatic, synonymously.
Nevertheless, one cannot return the progress of history back. Similar to groups defending freedom of the firearms, universities in the US will continue to admit crazy and odd behaving students. They are not source of these violent actions.
Cyrus

Peter Jones said...

That he seems paranoid in his last words, it is natural. Even soldiers who want to commence the action become paranoid in the night and hours before the operation. We said that in our first comments about the salmons. Paranoia helps the individuals to lose their individuality and immerse into the global mind. When one has not individuality he does not care for his individual existence and cannot see himself. He only has the address of the spring and should get there. Schizophrenics – so-called – have a somehow constant connection with the global mind and are agitated hence. Satan shows how human gets consciousness to that secret world of collective knowledge to annihilate the human being and their universe.
The Grand Unified Theory successfully interpreted the last hours of the V-Tech University shooter.
Siddhartha

Peter Jones said...

It was a time that children could not complain from their parents, even if they were right in their complaints. People believed that a child by default lies and parents are always right, whatever they do. Gradually people recognised that the respect and obedience that is advised through the history for parents in the eye of children does not mean that an unconditional and absolute one. Now, we know that in principle, a child has the right of complaints and sometimes protection against their very real and dear biological parents. Well, it is a big issue to establish institutions everywhere who could handle correctly these complaints and separate and target real cases from nagging of children and we are not able to and its beyond the human knowledge to sort them out, nevertheless we do not deny rationally and in legislation existence of such a right. Even we have a hotline for their complaints. We also do not deny the right of the defence and appeal from the accused parties. When we make a law it is always verses some right: the famous balance of justice system.
Now they say when you are under detention of psychiatrist we do not have the right of appeal since the doctor has well intention and we are in a caring hands, and lunatics by default are nagging, uncooperative truant cheating pathological liars. Yes, one hundred thirty six of lords against one hundred thirty three of them voted as the confirmation of this belief. They did not consider that even for a likeliness of one out of thousand case of abuse they couldn’t ignore the right of the poor melancholic trapped creature.
Cyrus

Peter Jones said...

This takes me to discussion of counterinstitution or regression and decline of an institution. It is when an institution plants a time bomb in his own facilities, instead of his enemies, and it believes that he is vanquishing his enemies. In my previous country, our king made a coup against his elected prime minister and established his power as an absolute monarch. Yes, we had a constitution that would give a very limited role and very good respect and kingly living for the king. King put that aside, made it a titular formality. Some people started to resist and their goal was to put him back in that framework. After ten years it came a time that they would arrest people and torture them to confess that they believed in constitution. One very famous among them said, "I am the last person arrested for asking the constitution. A day comes that you will be asking for the constitution." He went to prison to come out after fifteen years as the prime minister of the revolutionaries or whatever. After that people gradually did not put constitution as their goal and even some started terrorist act inspired by Mao and Che and others. When the conditions became ready, then all the people rebelled with one voice that they did not want a king at all. Then the king, under pressure, came out that the constitution is the heritage of blood of the nation ancestors and it has given the throne as the gift of the god and we should be bound to laws and avoid anarchy and a lot of promises. Well, people had enough of his law obedience and threw him out and executed his administration.
The authority needs laws and reforms and openness more than under trodden.
Mahdi

Small Voice said...

"DBDouble said...
...Personally I have gone public about my suspension from my NHS Trust http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/328/7441/709-b. Pat Bracken and Phil Thomas have a book on post-psychiatry coming out at the end of this year and my edited book on Critical Psychiatry is due out next spring. How else do you want us to follow through?"


Is the blog still in use (April 2007) and was the suspension a case of bullying academics /lack of academic freedom kind of situation?

Peter Jones said...

What happened next? Which side were you for?
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

I was not on any side. The world for me is divided to Christ and antichrist, Mahdi and dadjjal, Hormuz and ahriman, Cyrus and nebuchadnezzar, Moses and Pharaoh, existence and extinction. None of these elements were involved in those fights. But beautiful and nasty things were there to watch with your little eyes to get lessons.
Manny Butterfly

Peter Jones said...

For example what?
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

Well, they had the antique constitution similar to Belgium with three separate, independent powers. They removed the king from it and altered it to a republic. Then they took ideas from different systems of governments and added to it. Even though the jurisprudence is in 'Latin' model, they took the idea of a jury from American system when one of the newspaper personnel should be taken to the court for a media offence. They put all safeguards for protection of all kinds of civil liberties and prevention of ad hoc enforcement of the power. All the discussions were broadcasted live on TV and it took a year.
Cyrus

Peter Jones said...

Excellent; hence you were in a place with very progressive laws?
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

Wait; this is not part of my discourse.
It is about the 'mental health' nurse whose life, parts of her ordeal, is depicted in the article of Asylum magazine. If I had not seen the authority when it is naked I was not able to understand the suffering of that delicate soul when she was looking in the face of darkness.
Iessus

Peter Jones said...

What is then related to that note about constitution and such?
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

After finishing that they established hurriedly all the institutions prescribed by the constitution.
Cyrus

Peter Jones said...

Why in a hurry? What was the rush for?
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

The rush was for the gold. They were hurried to nail down everything in their own favour.
Manny Butterfly

Peter Jones said...

For every infringement of law by the authority there was a safeguard. You might be surprised because you know that, for example, alcohol is not allowed. But it does not mean that if you see somebody shouting and staggering and has red eyes and his breath smells alcohol is liable. Perhaps somebody else has forced drink in his mouth. He should confess without force and three times in presence of a just judge that he had drunk on his own liberty.
What happens if somebody in power violates your right? There are many places that you can complain. They give you a ticket that you should come next year; then next year, and then next year.
If your case was serious or you were serious or defendant was a serious person then somebody would approach you and advise you that just ignore, not by out of the court negotiation but by a simple “go get lost!” If you were persistent, you could be disappeared or an accident happens to you; car, stabbing, suicide.
Mahdi

Peter Jones said...

You mean rare cases and sometimes.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

No, systematic, routine and on a daily basis as the procedure. Law and rules are for minor civil cases between commoners and beggars. From the next day that they were set on the power, they started but from a group who were most wicked and most devil in eyes of people; " a bunch of torturers arrogant traitors who were selling the country to foreigners." Yes, I knew they were true. The next lot a group of counter-revolutionary who put fire on the harvests to create hunger. Yes, I knew they were true.
Manny Butterfly

Peter Jones said...

Among them was a doctor of children who had selected to work in a very remote area among the poorest peasants; a passionate head. The only arson he knew was the match he put on his cigarettes with. A special group of four from a committee of revolution in the capital of the country with a Peugeot 504 was sent to that remote town one thousand kilometres away to bring him to the capital. After a hundred kilometres their story says that the chubby doctor decides to overpower the four men group. He was shot in his right side. They contacted with the head of the committee. Voice instructed them do not allow him to suffer more; put him in comfort. He was found shot in the head under a bridge, near the little town he was working.
Who was on the other side of the line? He was also a doctor of children, teaching in medical school and writer of a small textbook about diseases of children. He was just the opposite character of the chubby doctor. When the rebel or up rise of the people got enough momentum to win he joined to a to some gang who ultimately became connected to the leaders of the so-called revolution. These two doctors knew each other for many years and had unsettled issues with each other. He sorted the issue out. These types of services promoted the young doctor to the first minister of foreign affairs for sixteen years. (He was one of the few ones with zealot fanatic allegiance who knew English and had a title of doctor. Yes, there were many opportunist but still were not sure about stability of regime. These details are not related.) Additionally, he was the head of numerous yearly delegates to international medical conference and honorary head of the WHO branch in the country and the head of the medical council (the body who permits doctor to work and judge them and investigate complaints). That head should be elected directly by registered doctors, but they pushed this man and overrode the elections for twenty years due to special conditions of the country: an assassin on the board.
Manny Butterfly

Peter Jones said...

Still, I am confused.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

I was discussing that when it is possible to easily detain supposedly useless lunatics then with some tactics it becomes possible to detain other individuals, and if prestigious people cannot tolerate some ketchup on their cuffs it is possible to find some villains to do the dirty job and they easily can block any leakage of information. Oh, my god! Here with so many newspaper and fighting intellectuals they can. In my previous country, everywhere there were angles and saints and god and prayers and heavenly verses with no avail. They are sources of job and income for a group of people. Nobody is frightened from those things to be a little more careful. Here all these gears, when it comes to use them, have the same effect.
Mahdi

Peter Jones said...

Additionally Manny Butterfly needs that information for future readers to know under what conditions he ensnared by the 'Thing'.
Leonardo diPardo

Peter Jones said...

The writer of the Asylum magazine has heroically tried to expose a little of all the pain that that honourable lady, the mental health nurse has suffered. Is it possible to write them down really as it has happened? One should be a great literature writer to be able to convey one night of the lady. They simply say, “She tolerated trauma stress.” When you start a social action it seems easy, "I go and tell everybody that they are abusing and such and such! There are so many good people around. They are going to tear them down." When you begin, only a couple of crackpots will join to you. Both will be scared with a ‘gurrrr’ of the abuser. "Ok, leave them I go to trade union. They make a crap of them!" Trade union acts like a 'no win, no fee' firm: "Do you have a record of the incident? Who else were with you?"-"We are moving to a new building." -"Our legal consultant is out with summer holidays!" -"Does everybody in your work place is nagging like you?" You say, "I go to human rights organisations! I'll show them what are the taste of fangs of a watchdog!" Their answers to you is like this, "Thank you for your comment regarding this group. Our volunteer advisors are busy right now. We assure you that in due time they return to you. If your message is to give a donation our account details come after the signature!" They also sell mugs and T-shirts.
The abusers know all of these ahead.
Wolfgang Strauss

Peter Jones said...

The 'Perfect Human' has suffered all of this and feels all of these with his (her) flesh to the bone. I said earlier in the story of 'Ace in the Hole' that spectators become angry of the cruelty of the reporter. I add, but if the dead man and the reporter go to court then the reporter with the help of the spectators will win the case. Cinema spectators are acting like the crowd who came to desert to eat sausage and watch the painful, gradual death of the entrapped man. Camera moves them, or elevates them to that position of humanity.
They say they nailed to the wrist of Jesus and this was the suffering of the 'Son of God'. And even he did not die. He survived the cross! He also had a lot of useless knowledge of every preacher that you should be kind with your neighbours and give a coin to beggars and so on. This is all he suffered for the stupid person who lost easy life of paradise to hunger and death on the earth. And he did that for a humble apple. And his wife intrigued him. What was the tool of the wife for intriguing? They even were not aware that they had that organ, let alone use it. When there is no other man or woman around and no sexual life then what is the meaning of intriguing? Why human being needs such a nonsense story for generations and so vehemently embrace such a myth? You might say that it is symbolic. Then go and ask Pop or archbishops, or ayatollahs or rabies or Dalai Lama what is the meaning of the symbol. Do they know? No, only Jesus knows. In Roman Empire even a wealthy person could crucify his chef if the chef could not provide prestigiously for his special banquets, without any court or answering anybody. Every day they crucified hundred people mostly innocent who had little children and were thirsty and had half grey beards and looked very humble.
Ant'hony Queen

Peter Jones said...

We search to see how the Grand Unified Theory glues all the social and psychological phenomena together
Mad'dieu Bourbaki

Peter Jones said...

And to the material texture of the universe
Grant Hardy

Peter Jones said...

That honourable lady, the mental health nurse whose campaign is depicted in the article of the Asylum magazine has lost twenty five years of the best years of his life, the gift that endowed to you only once, to recover the right of a patient. Even that patient have been so weak and vulnerable that perhaps she herself has forgotten, in an attack of deep trauma, that right and has ignored it in oblivion of sadness. This nurse, the beautiful mirror image of Mad'dieu, the 'Perfect Human' chose to live like that. She was the victim on the cross. They nailed her. She endured. She stayed motionless and looked into the face of darkness. She was all motion and resistance. You wondered it is a lecture of philosophy, gathering the antagonists. Now, behold. Victim is volunteered. Motion is not-moving. Going means staying. The inquirer and the judge and the court were accomplice to perpetrator. They enjoy in a satanic ecstasy to watch the candle to burn to the end. The ‘Thing’ fluctuates and comes out of the nothingness to find carriers for the most unholy of the most profanes. It gets itself to the authority and the head of the establishment. It is the reason that the whole system at the end is not happy of such commitments. They are not of the honourable lady genre. They are more or less of the abusing gang genre.
Hormuz

Peter Jones said...

Witness to this claim, mentioned in previous comment, comes right now from the current discussion of mental health bill. At the last minute the royal college of nurses has sent a message that they have no independent idea. They are 'convinced' (in trying to be pompous) that it is not necessary to ask the patient, to hold justice for the mentally ill, because these 'dear' (in trying to be kind) creatures may receive harm. They say a mistake already happened if anybody thought that the rcn is on the side of justice and human rights for the mentally ill. They sent this in the last hours to prevent any reaction from the plural – if any – of the nurses. This is where that honourable lady wanted to go to complain. They are institutionally callous and non-responsive, lacking a bit of nerve in the potato. The other institution is the aggregate of social worker. It is beyond my writing capacity to explain how it is clear for me that this useless machine of employment and money spending has been created originally parallel to police as a mechanism of information gathering from deep inside the working and lower class families to intercept and suppress any straw of resistance as a deviance. It is natural that mental health control system has such strong bond to this gadget. They are more barking than psychiatry in harassment of mentally ill. They are time wasting, leave-it-for-tomorrow, beurocratic paper workers. They are insensitive, irresponsible, arguing, endlessly justifying obedient tools of the establishment. For the reason of this quality of service that they are providing for the system, the government, in the wardrobe, has decided to give the fate of lunatics to these two obedient groups as much as possible, and gradually put out the psychiatrists and lawyers out. Psychiatrists and lawyers are more prone to gradually go under the dominion of hippies and decide to share the freedom with others. But psychiatrist are not still all hippies from bottom to top and as already we said, and you can see how much I was correct, they are shy children in the candy bar and do not leave easy job and good pay to social worker. In contradiction to their previous claims that they are not tools of social controls and gaolers, they declare in last hours that they do not bother if mentally ill's life is crapped in confinement or chemicals or sadistic actions or what is the human right, as far as we become the decision maker, and we are not in any position regarding the right of the mentally ill declared by bintellectuals: You can call me Dave or you can call me Steve; I do not bother as far as you invite me for the dinner.
Leonardo diPardo

Peter Jones said...

Well, they believe if they remain in charge they will be able to hold the rights of the mentally ill in his favour.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

It is because you do not understand what is the meaning of the balance as the symbol of law, which is the symbol of god in judgment day. Law is against the right. Right should be held against the law. Whose right should? Right of the mentally ill, not the right of the establishment; establishment has not any right that that to be held. Wonder? Establishment is the law not 'the Establishment'. Establishment is not the individuality of the people who work there. Another synonym name for the law is establishment. King Hammurabi or king Cyrus the Great or king Solomon could not go to each instance of conflict of rights between ‘individuals’ he said, “Well, let law be there, instead of me, to decide who is right!” Then the establishment’s name changed to ‘law’.
According to this bill, mentally ill has not any right. On the other hand, establishment, that is the law, fights for its 'right' to detention: increasing the number of situations that it can detain the people.
Cyrus

Peter Jones said...

R.Kippling:
"God bless the thoughtful islands
"Where never warrants come;
"God bless the just republics
"That give a man a home,
"That ask no foolish questions
"But set him on his feet;
"And save his wife and daughters
"From the workhouse and the street."
Leonardo diPardo

Peter Jones said...

In central Asia there is a game similar to polo on the horseback but instead of hitting a ball on the floor, players should pass carcass of a goat to each other. Opponent team tries to take it from the other group when the other group is passing the carcass to each other. At the end what remains of the carcass; little pieces for birds.
Another memorandum is from an amalgamation that even incorporates trade unions. First they acknowledge the share of the more powerful gang in having all the rights of detention and medication and whatever they deem to be done to poor mentally ill. And they know a QC who is ‘satisfied’ with this contrive. Then they beg for their own shares and all should be under coercion, otherwise it does not work. Perhaps at the end they should come to my humble ‘logic’ lessons, and if so let me join to their united voice or united noise. It is necessary for them. It comes handy in a raining day. If they cannot understand "why?" then I extend their detention.
Hormuz

Peter Jones said...

Another note was from the 'chemical Ali', who did that to meet the requirement of his duty (to whom?). He reiterated the importance of pesticides against the mentally ill. These chemicals are psychotropic. That is, you are 'this' and the chemical makes you 'that'. Another speculation is that in the recent incident in Virginia tech, the man was pumped up by two years consumption of these advised chemicals, which changed the mummy-boy to a cold blooded killer. The nasty teacher did an unethical action in engaging with the boy and reporting his essay as a symptom to authority. That is espionage and using the tools of social control. Those type of writings are constantly published in that country and used by moviemakers and others for earning money. Engagement of the teacher also could endanger herself. They should teach the ancient art of lonely boys to him or teach him how to spend twenty dollars each Friday night. The best was to encourage his family to find a girl of their own to marry with. It was good to sit with him in long entertaining sessions of talking, allowing him to 'empty out' himself similar to masturbation, but mentally. My teacher explained for me how they gave interaction confidence to a young gentleman by one hour meeting of a very attractive female. It is not that the problems have not solutions. We should be eager to search and find them.
Wolfgang Strauss

Peter Jones said...

Stephan, ancient king of Poland announced that he wanted to reward tailors for their efforts in the society on a Sunday feast. When tailors were on procession towards royal court they noticed that the group who make blankets for sitting on a donkey were joining to them. When tailors enquired "Why?" donkey dressers retorted, "Well, we are not tailors, but nevertheless we stitch on the cloth."
The amalgamation mentioned before believes to keep people under detention to reduce their trauma by talking to them and now they are against medication, but if they were told to give medication or even break the neck of the mentally ill, they happily comply to move themselves to the next stage (“by all pleasure master”). And they are doing these for the ‘dear patients’. And ‘dear patients’ are patiently flick over the catalogues for mp3’s and Playstation and Topshop and outdoors dinner and holidays.
Their QC has advised that human right is a test of substance. The amalgamate group knows that it is a matter of quantum.
The Amalgamate group says, "The QC is satisfied that "objective medical expertise" is a test of substance, i.e. competencies, rather than professional qualifications."
This reciprocally applies to human rights of mentally ill when they say 'unsound mind when a medical expert believes it. When that unsoundness harms to somebody else and that somebody else complains to a court and court believes upon evidence of a medical expert that the harm has been due to an unsound mind then should detain him as a lunatic. Spirit of the human rights is to limit as much as possible the ability of governments for detention.
Its pith and substance is increasing the liberty and freedom.
Manny Butterfly

Peter Jones said...

Declaration of human rights is written as something to be used against the government of workers after Second World War. It just says, "Zero is equal to zero; one is equal to one" and so on and so forth.
Leonardo diPardo

Peter Jones said...

Nevertheless, we attach to this proposition as a good axiom:
Pith and substance of human rights is increasing the liberty and freedom.
Cyrus

Peter Jones said...

The next group, who apologised, believes three thousand and three hundred and thirty three should be incarcerated for one who is at large. Even if you can hunt down that single one you are not sure that the engineer who checked your airliner has had a pint or two or none. It is better to find new horizons of beauty, instead of perpetual remembrance of the deceased. ‘Dear patients' also have a god and he take care of them.
And we get to finish the story of notes given to parliament. And among the note writers, Mad'dieu who is more beautiful than the Sun could find some of his (her) burgeoning children.
Manny Butterfly

Anonymous said...

I do not understand. Who asked your idea about these things? Move on and document your own biography, as you desired at first.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

Well, I wrote almost one hundred thousand words. What did you understand?
Manny Butterfly

Anonymous said...

I understood you were an orphan and your father was a clerk for a lawyer and you used to watch cock-fighting. Then you could find an influential relative and you asked him to send you to Cote d'Azur to watch topless women and be in charge of bribes and prostitution. You also read a book about a whore.
You have said that you are suffering from a mental illness and would like to document your illness on the Internet.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

Excellent! Remember only those about me. Therefore I am ready to move to the next stage.
Manny Butterfly

Peter Jones said...

At first I should clear your ambiguity about what I wrote and what you understood and defending me against your misunderstanding.
To begin, I refer to the special program I watched on cnn TV channel, perhaps a couple of years ago. It was about the Nobel peace prize. They asked the committee why they did not give to Nobel peace prize to mahatma Gandhi, though posthumous. The spokesperson retorted that they believed Gandhi was a terrorist.
Who are they? Perhaps they have heard that Gandhi has been killed by a terrorist, and after passing fifty-five years his pictured has been swapped in their minds. They are all ignorance, yes? When we speak, they understand something else, like Caribbean Africans who, after three hundred years still like to go home, and hence become misinterpreted as schizophrenics? Or the stigmatised girl who wrongly believes that she has misrepresented herself and now 'they' know her suffering from overconfidence, or other examples that I hope I am going to bring them in the light of the Grand Unified Theory?
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

"Never confuse movement with action."
Ernest Hemingway

Peter Jones said...

But first things should come first.
You should forgive me because I am of some age and with tendency to talk too much and bring stories from the corners to support my propositions and among them I like to utilize movies. Movies help me to visualise things if my audience have already had a sight of them. Sometime I try to write them down as much as I can remember. At the end of the day I hope you can get few words about what I have experienced. In the stories we read that Noah had eight hundred years time to convince people that a flood would come that take them with, and Noah would be safe and can tell them how they could be safe by joining to him. He received harassment and mockery and almost nobody joined to him and a lot of other unbelievable things such as flooding the earth to the top of highest mountains and taking all the animals to a humble one-man-made do-it-yourself ship. You say it is a nonsense fable, or it is a symbolic story about fights of human being against the nature. Your reasons are feasibility and possibility and so on. Why for many thousands years people have accepted this story? You say that they are fanatics. Well, why do they depict people of Noah's time so intellectual and objective? Why not those people were fanatics? Why they were not simpletons and scary and start to pray and beg Noah to do something for them to save them? They were intellectuals and asked Noah for hard evidence such as some satellite pictures and data and atmospheric models, but after them people lost their wits and started to believe in retrospect that such things had actually happened and they did not ask for any evidence. Situation became reversed and non-believers became object of harassment and mockery.
My story is like that. No one will believe it as much as I try to write it down and expand it even in eight hundred years.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

--Winston Churchill

Peter Jones said...

Where was I? When I saw the movie 'The Collector' I was nineteen year. Then When somebody would say that he loved her but he couldn't tell her, we used to tell him with a robotic voice, "Then go and tell her that you have respect for her and you detest flirting!" We meant he was like Freddie. In the translation of the movie in my language when the girl pretended that she had consent to make love with Freddie he responded that he had respect for the girl and he did not like the girl flirt with him like the university boys and should first fall in love with him. At that time that story was a black humour among us.
When 'The Thing' happened to me as part of its satanic ritual it got to a point that it could not find any means to intimidate me and that story is very long and I am going to write it with all detail later. One day it gave through the 'environment' this cue that the aim of this ritual is to 'force me to love' because 'they’ believe that as part of some disease I was hostile and hateful in the character and actually I did not know it and that hostile personality is the source of the disease and should be changed to love. I immediately said with robotic voice, "If you want to f*ck why do you have respect and I promise not to flirt with you!” That cue reminded me for the first time about those butterflies in the Freddie’s jar but I couldn’t believe that it was the fact. After a while my dark dreamed started such that I could recognise them as something external induced remotely from the deliriums of ‘The Thing’ and gradually it started to talk directly in those nightmares to me. Grant Hardy tried many gadgets to eliminate them by supposition that perhaps a human machination such as radio waves are involved and we could nit figure out how to eliminate them and I gradually was sunken in the dark world of Ahriman and become more and more ill and frustrated. One night when as usual I woke up for the midnight prayers of the mystics that should be done before the real dawn and it is different with the dawn prayer that people in that region usually do after dawn I thought to myself well sooner or later one who supports this contrive would stop ‘The Thing’ and I’ll be free to go everywhere and sleep at night. When after the prayer I went to sleep again the carrier of the most profane told me that those cables and communications tools would remain untouched inside my body even after I become cured of ‘bicycling’ for regular check in future. Then I woke up and remembered the jars and I shouted and for the first time I started to savagely out of frustration to beat myself. Now I read the people who become raped if they do not commit suicide they, at least become self-harming. My mood became worse and worse. After few years in the spring of nineteen ninety-eight when the voice started to talk all around the day I was living here in this country. One night I had beaten myself all the night and I had slept only for two hours I telephoned to my stepsister. I had two ugly stepsisters. The bigger was as devil and cruel as the younger but sometimes could keep a kind looking cheating face and I thought perhaps she might show some mercy to me. I told her, “Can you remember the butterfly you had pinned to the wall in the living room?” She was six years older than me. Her biology teach told them that if they pin a butterfly in the head to the wall it gradually dies and they could bring it for the teacher and get some bonus marks. At that time I was a little boy and she was in high school. But her butterfly didn’t die even after a year and when we touched his yellow wings he moved them. Perhaps he still had a wish to fly again and go to those high mountains that I had seen them in the June at the time that when you walked among wild poppies and daffodils thousands butterflies were flying around you and camouflaged you as if your parts of the body are all made of butterflies. The butterfly on the wall never died until they redecorating people put it off. I said to my stepsister that I was like that butterfly and pinned in my head and motionless and for the sake of both of us having had the same father if she could mercy to me and as she should have some information about ‘et al’ give those information to me such that I take them to the court to decide if I deserved such a destiny and I would pray her children. She said’ “ I happily would do whatever I could, but now I have not time.” And hanged on the phone. That time I had not any notion that what was Christ and what was Antichrist. My earthly body could not figure out what was the companionship of Ma’dieu and those mystical sojourns into the glass marble and out of that and Fara-va-har and dot on the letter ‘i’. By coincidence the Victor Hugo poems that he wrote for his two daughters and I used to read for my wife and my daughter (I used to call them my dove and my signet), these two wretched house maids that I brought here with me in a hope of better life and release from the ‘et al’ had a hint to butterflies who were in ecstasy.
Dear academy (in accordance with Kafka’s ‘Report to Academy of Science”), when I was seeing ‘The Collector’ and I was nineteen years old when the girl ‘tried’ to kill her captor by hitting him with a shovel I was shouting with all my being in my heart, “Kill him! Kill him! Kill the bastard! Beat him harder!” I never confuse me with Freddie and I know who is actual Freddie. Story of Manny Butterfly is not action, or reaction, overreact to or encapsulation seen by psychologist’s shrinking insight. It is as old as me. I tried in this comment to describe few hours of one night of me perhaps to convince future generations what is the suffering of human in hands of ‘The Thing’. Do you believe that I can explain every minute of so many years.
Manny Butterfly

Peter Jones said...

That took a year. I hope in future I can expand it more. When I use a story such as 'The Collector' then should you believe that it is because I confuse myself with Freddie and want to move some similar guilt to somewhere else because by default I am a mentally ill and a mentally should be like this and then you move the mentally ill to assume such a self-accusing position and isn't it self fulfilling prophesy. You say mentally ills are Freddie’s and are risk to society then in this way whatever is your patient after some years it becomes Freddie (if any).
When I write I write what I mean. I mean I am in the hands of Freddie and as much I try to write a letter to outside world or try to escape he foils my attempts and I mean it. I have a Thomas Scheff's article about shame here in my computer. He says a shy person looks on the floor and behaves like this and so on, then does he mean that he himself is a shy person. Then how one could write about something else?
In defence of David Cooper: There is an article that might vilify David Cooper. It was all right if the writer did not try to close all excuses for the apparently messy life of the deceased psychiatrist of the workers and intellectuals. He says, normally, people might say that because of all the flames that he had in his heart he could not become a farting psychiatrists in Shenley road and the writer of the article believes that this is a commonplace, useless expired excuse to be used for justification.
The writer should show some grace to David Cooper and remove his name from the list of farting people.
Well, he actually had had such a flame in his heart and it had burned his earthly body down and it made all the differences.
The writer believes that the sixties was decade of revolution and love and hippies and two thousand is not like that any more. During sixties were people who believed that thirties was decade of love and revolution and so on. There are always farting people and burning people at any era.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

Before proceeding further, it is something that I should confess. I become very embarrassed when I speak about resistance against psychiatry. Such a thing is so far and out of touch for me that make me alienated with my writing. I have been grown in a place that such an intervention is beyond the wildest imagination of the even most westernised intellectuals, let alone an ordinary person. At the time that I left my native place, there were only three hundred psychiatrists for a nation of sixty million people (from the report of Dr F. Fa... to WHO, May 1993). When I write I frequently tell to myself, "Well, this is not your problem. Let them to detain them. Perhaps they are fair and well intention to individuals of their own." Besides, who is mentally ill that they say that he should be arrested? Is he sad or angry or funny or what? I was there for a short time. Perhaps they should jog or do exercise or sing aloud or go to swimming to become better. They should shave and take a shower every morning. There were hundreds of people doing nothing all days long, shaking due to that poison or yawning and walking round and round. Why I have made me involved in such area of my remote understanding. I read here in every university dozens of professors and scores of other scholars researching and writing books and articles about many narrowly specialized disciplines of psychiatry and psychology and care of mentally ills. More amazing, I criticize the establishment of this country who (I mean the nation not its establishment) is one of the cradles of new ideas in liberal democracy and also in workers democratic ideas.
Well, it is because I know something that nobody knows: living in the closed jar; living in panopticon. Because of that I am the promised Messiah.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

"Though the warrior horse is very slim still he is much more expensive than a stable full of donkeys"
Rumi

Peter Jones said...

But I recognised one thing there. They were individually as different as other parts of society. When people have, say, hypertension, they behave similarly and their disease is not recognizable individually. Sometimes, they made me believe that they were just pretending. In our language in such situations we say, "Ah, you cannot tuck in the whole loaf, that is your illness!" At that time the idea of categorising deck of shuffled cards came to my mind. But I could not categorise what they were pretending. They were so different like individuals of staff. And perhaps some of them were to quit drugs. And I was all dysfunction by the prescribed chemicals that could recognize their individuality, let alone you be doctor of them and have observed them for many years if you had not other businesses but your duty. (I purposefully separated myself from those suffered poor souls. And I do not include me as one of them.)
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

After a while when I was catching those cues from people around me I started to inspect them what is the demand of such an operation that they were doing with me. In a similar natural situation in my native environment the enquired person becomes a little or more violent that why one should accuse him that he is behaving differently with him, or if he is near or friendly he starts to swear by god or the stack of the Book or his beloved ones that he did not mean anything. But to my surprise they would say that I was in 'delusion'. We do not have such a word in such a context in our language. It is either poetical or with a different semantic (takes a boast from past tense to present tense as meaning impossible). I became sure that in a psychologist-pretending manner they had been taught to use this word inappropriately. Nevertheless, by cueing, they told me that the goal was to change me to a healthy person. I said that it was not possible to change somebody to a healthy person by insult and abuse and abusive words towards his wife and his daughter. One only changes himself on his own freedom. They said this method need not my freedom of choice and I had not that freedom by birth due to the disease that I had brought to world from my physiology. I said if it was from the physiology how it could be cured by social action. I, further, asked what would happen if no change occurred. They said change would happen and next year I would sit with them tranquil and 'clean' and my 'brakes' would work properly and I would forget everything and idea of revenge from the people who actually sacrificed to help me and I would not bother if they told me, "f*ck your wife!" and I even would not notice if the operation was going on or was stopped. But I said that now I had a criterion for effectiveness of this method if it stopped or I felt that it had been stopped then the change had been occurred. Otherwise one should reasonably decide that for all including reasons the method actually had not any relation with whatever disease that it attributed to me. It keeps some people busy and suffers my wife and my daughter and me without any consequence. Additionally, you might say that it is not for definite curing of the disease but it is for reducing and alleviating it. Then as you assert that this method is a social method tailored for the scarce resources available in the third world its enhancing effects should also be seen in terms of social factors such as the enhancement of family relations and socialisations and friendships and work and job success and earning, ability of negotiation and settling disputes – some measurable or at least observable social behaviour: a lonely person in a remote island has not any mental illness, yes? Those conveyors of fire had not any notion about these things.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

Then I told them that I grew in harsh conditions before my marriage since I had lost my mother at my birth and my father died when I was nine. I had two stepsisters older than me and was with a stepmother from the birth and they used to remove my bones from the flesh everyday and if dirty insults were remedy for anything I had been so well served that I already should be champion and paragon of sanity. They said that they were healthy clean children of their healthy mother and I provoked their behaviour because I was a mother f*cker lunatic bastard son of a dirty harlot. I said, in contrast, I was not dealt in that way because of my insanity. It was because they knew me a very wise child.
Then I asked what would happen to my physical health since it was deteriorating day after day. They said it was my own responsibility. If I go to doctor he will be ready to serve me with similar pain. If I did not go and I die it would be my own responsibility. I said that my wife was becoming mad. She couldn’t understand why I became like that. They said that it was my own responsibility. That I should pretend such a thing did not exist. But if I show the faintest sign I would be dishonourably punished. They said, “If you find a job that pays too much we go and convince them to withdraw their intention.” That actually happened when Sonny (famous company) wanted to select me as their local manager in charge of their whole operations in that country. The last place I worked when I was leaving that country paid me half of what they had promised. They said they meant if I worked four weeks in four weeks but they couldn’t, in second thought, provide more than three weeks in four weeks. Still after few months they said since I had not my id in a day that their security asked for it I should leave. It was the only day in four months that I had left my id at my room, and they knew it. They said if I find a lucrative deal or some accidental money they void it and they impose ad hoc expenses on me by ad hoc claimants such that I lose that money (they did and they are still doing; everything is documented). But if I lose money or die in destitute they do not bother. If I do not go after a job and do not taste the ‘needles’ they allow me to die and my wife and my daughter go to street and they do not care.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

Amazed? Unbelievable? Noah said a flood would come to the height of the highest mountain and took a pair of each animal in his boat and had some spare cabins for people of his village. And people in China and American continent and Sweden went under water without any notice and booking opportunity in the Noah's ship; yes? It is symbol; symbol of what?
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

They said that they would demolish my building to make a brand healthy new one, but the new one has no staircase to upper floors. They further explained that they never allow me to get to even position of a supervisor of a two people crew let alone management or a high social status or allow my name goes as the writer of a book or claimant of a patent or being shown or heard in TV or radio or send and receive a valid letter without the hint that the other party shows that he knows my situation. They said they would make the most frenzy lunatic out of me to be used as a simulator machine for round the clock study of a ‘crystalline transparent’ schizophrenic in the worst situation of frustration and misery. They would be going to give me medication to see what happens, they put me in the straitjacket to watch the result. They ask little naughty children to boo me and stone me to observe the reaction. They would arrest me by police and ask them to describe their beholding. They ask ordinary people to go into the ad hoc artificially provoked conflicts with me. They ask shopkeepers to withheld their customer’s services to gauge the result Hence they make the easiest job the hell for me. They told me I would be a ‘scraped’ person used for some parts. And if I can live long, that they have told directly through doctors that with such exceptionally enormous pressure that I have tolerated during this period is not likely I can squeak and giggle in my pee wetted pants. So far they have been on their promise neatly.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

They told me they would not allow me to have more children. My wife narrowly escaped from making an old woman out of her by removing her healthy womb. The surgeon who was a university teacher could not figure out what was the relation of ‘depehrehsseeoon’ of husband with the womb of the wife. There, doctors have not any notion of psychiatry intervention to be related authoritative policing action and doubt and refute and make fun. They understand that some abuse is involved, and ignore it similar to seeing a naughty or corrupt action from their colleague. If it was here that certainly would happen to my wife. In the situation that now I am living I am sure that if ‘they ask physician, he even does not ask “why?” and remove my eyes or eyes of my wife or my daughter for the sake of my ‘mental health’. Anyhow, we could not bring any more children due to practicality. While I was beating me and begging for a piece of bread how could I have more children? At the beginning of my marriage we brought two children. The first one became aborted (naturally) because before my wife recognise her, she moved a heavy flower vase. She was as little as a mushroom and we both cried and cried after a couple of months this one came to our world. Once my wife saw a drop of blood and again we cried and cried but nothing important happened for her. They told me that all this was because the appearance had been important for me and I had rejected one hundred respectable believer girls offered to me before her. I said if all of them had not a fault why they should offer them to me, to such a wretched miserable person only the most stupid coward might give her daughter to me and the accept that his daughter and grand daughter and son in law become apparatus of some unknown cruel, inhuman, futile botchery experiment of foreigners. I was not after appearance. I was looking to find such a simpleton coward, wasting idiot to be able to marry with her daughter.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

As having children is considered by them a way to upper floors, now here, with the total access that they have on me and for the sake of mental health they also have to my daughter. Now for her they have started from her sixteenth, to be legal. They have done all the preliminary works. Every single student in her school has been informed. Every single child who knew her or can remember has been contacted. All teachers and staff in her school are informed. All the teachers and staff in her primary school are informed all the out of the school clubs that she is going or previously has gone are informed. All the staff of the work place that she goes eight hours a week has been contacted. All these people are advised to use, for now, few cues such as thirty-three, ugly, Cortoguese (her native land), Gandhi. All the friends, staff, colleagues, former colleagues any place that my wife applies for job or goes as agency are informed about me and my daughter. Even when a rep comes to workplace of my wife they inform him about my mental illness and cues that they should use. I might hear one cue in two days during the summer time and one cue in one week or a fortnight during winter by shouting a neighbour. My wife and my daughter do not talk about anything from the outside world and I use an mp3 or put my fingers on my ears even if I want to bring something from the shed. They just assault my family in front of other people without I even become informed.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

What are these cues you always you mention? Are they painful hints related to your biography or perhaps type of language programming or what?
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

You can assume whatever you like. It is best that you assume that those cues have been selected carefully by the best psychological considerations under observation of the UN. They have not any effect in term of remedy or alleviating or treating or curing of my alleged mental illness. And proof of that is not my assertion that could be based on vengeance. Its proof of futility is that they continue it without stop for twenty years, which is not proportionate to natural life span of a human. I was a young powerful healthy man. Now, I am old and crippled. Nothing in term of my mentality or mental health can be compared in this time span. If they had observed any improvement they would reduce its severity. Now, they want to extend it to my next generation. When I am in grave they are going to suffer my daughter for treating my mental health.
Nonetheless, they are banal phrases only to show that I am under control and legally invalid in that ocassion. They have no meaning except that they show a situation.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

It is kind of tagging, but verbally, you believe? Don't you?
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

Yes, one can say that. Even if I look out of my window quite for a long time, they might ask some neighbour from far windows to show a cueing action or shouting. For that, I also have become house arrested in the darkest corner of my home. If it becomes sunny and I sit for a long time in the garden, somebody shouts a cue. The Impostor goes in full swing if I try to have an outdoor food or chat with laugh with my wife or my daughter, then they come and shout something. Or I have to sit silently and put my fingers on my ears or use an mp3. That makes them very annoyed. When I tell to them lets have lunch outside today, those two wretched housemaids look to the floor. They say they are more comfortable inside. They say it for the sake of me. They know I become like a trapped fox, curs barking at. When just as I think that those monsters can’t get worse, they prove me wrong yet again
"I am that wounded bleeding prey crawled to the crevice of a boulder
-Still breath to breath with the predators' terriers"
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

And when it is warm and sunny outdoors, Leonardo diPardo puts on her jogging short pants like the old days and black socks with the white sports ankle supports and John-Travolta-Grease-style sleeveless shirt showing his once powerful arms. And with his silver noble head some people who can watch him stealthy believe that he is a god or a demigod walking on earth.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

I said that, I forgot to say that The Impostor goes into full swing when I am with my wife or with my daughter. They are being used as hostages. The co-ordinated relegation of my family to a level of esteem far below that enjoyed by every other people and reaction of these two souls is so painful for me. For that, I can't go outdoors or holiday with them. My wife yearn that I could go to a pub or a coffee out with her, but I know it a disgrace for her.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

I frequently notice that I have not been clear in many points that I have tried to advertise. One was related to recent debates of the mental health bill in parliament of Cortoguay. In TV shows when LAPD take one foreigner who, say, is picking pocket of somebody, hat person begins to talk his language pretending he can't understand police words. Then police says let's teach him language one oh one, as in the college. This Ms Rosie and other groups aligned with her pretend they can't understand the language of human rights and consumers and expert groups. Having become paranoid about a monster of their own creation or perhaps suffering from Munchausen by proxy syndrom, they say, make people believe, that their opponents want and ask and fight in order to government denies and withdraws its services for food, shelter, and soothing (if any possible solution exists) for people labelled as mentally ill. It is so pervert to talk with such a crowd of well-educated experts as if they are non-person or fancy amateurs. This is the shadow of 'The Thing' and 'The Impostor' on the society (Noah's flood).
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

Hence, the time is near and young generation is so vain and elders are corrupted and people do trades in temples and we should sit and pray and in the background you can hear the roar of thunders and in the darkness heads of gargoyles become visible in the sparks of the lightening; yes? Very frightening!
Yanis
PS: Will you stop? What is the 'Munchausen by proxy', now?

Peter Jones said...

Well, yes! We were here last year that you were partially blown by your friends and it took one year for your recovery. It was when I said that I had a great theory and you mocked me.
But for your question about the 'Munchausen by proxy', for now I have this; presumably from DSM-IV-TR: A parent or caregiver who's highly supportive and encouraging of the doctor, or one who is angry and demands further intervention, more procedures, second opinions, or transfers to more sophisticated facilities. There are other symptoms that I give them later.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

The other thing, which was not clear, was Gandhi and Nobel Peace prize. Ma'dieu has a whim that Gandhi should receive a posthumous Nobel Peace Prize. Therefore, I clear my point. None of this is political since Ma’dieu is not political at all. Ma’dieu knows one earth full of his (her) children. Ma’dieu has always his (her) fingers on his ears and do not understand differences between languages. It is related to communication, just like my case. I do not want to inflame or inflate or quench or deflate anybody. The Nobel peace prize committee needs language one oh one to be taught. They clearly knew who was Mahatma Gandhi and what he did and what was his approach. They know him as you and I have known him. They just believe he was anti-social when ill, otherwise a respectable person who should collect manure of holy cows in the streets. And as he did not commit himself to such a duty he was always ill and hence antisocial. And if that committee works enough after one hundred year everybody knows Gandhi as a bloodstained murderer. That committee are on the side of 'The Impostor'.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

The other point that I wanted to make clear after the last comment of Professor Phil Barker and I could not before clearing many things and get some improved writing skill, should come here, now. I do not assume that anybody should read my humble comments here. Had I assumed that, I believe, I would have lost my integrity like a teacher or an orator. I do not see anybody as my audience, nor anybody more fit than my humble soul to deliver such a vast knowledge. On the other hand, I write in a hope that all the men read it and I know all of them better than me, just like a teacher who exploits talents of his students to improve himself. I am 'The Perfect Human'.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

!!!!!!!MOTHER FUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!

Peter Jones said...

Well, I am writting the book, and I am living like them, anyhow, with any interpretation. At the end of the day people admit that there have been no difference.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

Did you respond to the the outsider comment came above your comment. I believe, you should ignore it.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

No, I do not read any comment without knowing the real name of the writer.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

The book of Jethro is very interesting. According to version that I know from our book, and could be different from version known here, he punished his nation for tampering the scales and cheating the customers. He destroyed the whole city by battering a sky rock to the town. And he did that for the bad customer service of shopkeepers. And all shopkeepers, perhaps a dozen in that ancient town were cheating. Jethro punished cheated customers together with the cheating retail enterprises.
As Ma'dieu has told me this is not accurate. The 'Thing' has at that time was around due to birth of Moses. Jethro had been trained as a healer of the souls according to tradition of Abraham. Abraham was the target of 'The Thing' at his own time and he was the father of people. He had been suffered in the tools of 'The Thing' and knew how to confront ‘it’. He taught his inspirations to his children and to his nation and created a school of thought that could confront 'The Thing' when 'it' emerges from the drags. Jethro shouted at his nation only one shout. But they destroyed their existence by succumbing to 'The Thing'. They were bad customers niggardly to the Jethro and lost him in favour of 'The Thing' who also always has had a claim of being the healer. That claim brings people sheepishly to 'it' in a hope of eternity of life and knowing and 'The Thing' robs them out of their existence.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

Story of Hammurabi becomes related to Jethro and Abraham. Hammurabi was uncle and healer. He was still carrying the title of uncle instead of father. He declared, "Let the law measures the rights, instead of 'the healer'!" He separated the role of the ‘mommy’ from the healer and from the law. ‘The Thing’ brings them back together.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

Wait aminute! Where did 'mommy' come from?
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

It came from the uncle and 'Munchausen by proxy'. At that time people had not father. They had uncle, instead. In our stories people believe that Abraham grew under his uncle who was an idol maker. People could not understand why he was attributed to an uncle and had not a known father with a name. I am the first one in history that has a known father but an unknown mother. Later we see this in the books of Mo-ses, Je-sus and Mo-hammad.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

I smell that you are talking against women. What is your point?
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

Keep those judgements for you. I said that I would not talk about any current issue except as a story or a lesson. I do not have any idea about women or workers or owners of capital or conspiracy or star wars or globalisation or war in the Middle East or 'niagaras vs. non-niagaras'. I am on your side regardless of whoever you are. I have only some good news for everybody. I have address of the spring and beautiful picture of yours.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

Hence, Hammurabi, many thousand years ago knew that the healer should be separate from the law: if they need healing they should go to healer, else if they have quarrel they should go to law. Now, here they dispute such a trivial, because of the bad habit or wrongly understood tradition.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

"Inspired by the Stanley Milgram obedience research, this TV movie chronicles a psychology professor's study to determine why people, such as the Nazi's, were willing to "just follow orders" and do horrible things to others. Professor Stephen Turner leads students to believe that they are applying increasingly painful electric shocks to other subjects when they fail to perform a task correctly, and is alarmed to see how much pain the students can be convinced to inflict 'in the name of science'."
The Tenth Level (TV Movie 1975)

Anonymous said...

From some of your remarks, I understand you are against goverment and you like to talk in that path. Am I correct?
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

You are wrong. I reiterate that fact repeatedly. I am talking about satanic ritual of human sacrifice. This is the 'first sin' that Abraham genre of religions, Judaism, Christianity and Esslaam, talk about Satan that I call it 'The Thing' or Ahriman uses three elements to complete its perfect plot against the 'The Perfect Human'. The first element is phallus of the ruler. One facet of this theory answers my own question. You can ignore it per your comment when you summed up what you understood about my biography. Another aspect is anthropologist understanding of symbols of these religions.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

Make it more clear for me
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

Look, we are living in a time that there is an illusion that people live on experimentable scientific findings. This is not the case, but I assume it is the case. In this period of time if you go and ask every individual on the earth about their belief in religion you understand that they somehow in a spectrum of weak to strong devotion admit that they are following a religion. There is a minority who say that such an idea is not correct. They are not necessarily scientist or intellectual. Therefore most people accept that they believe in someone like Jesus or Moses or Buddha who was hearing voices from an unknown source and seeing visions that other people could not see. They are darn bastards. Nobody takes them because they believe somebody else is a hallucinating lunatic. But if those poor creatures, Jesus or Zoroastar, or Mohammad come ahead they say he is mad and should be administered in a way.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

You said that you were not a religious person or a preacher or priest. What is that now, that you are revising?
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

I am not religious. As if you say that Marx was a Marxist.
I say these things that if I can have enough longevity, it is the beginning of my persecution and suffering not its end. I gradually increase my all-peaceful advertisement and you will see that at the end a very small group of people will join to my preaching. You will see that whatever I say will be scientifically correct and sound and reasonable and acceptable. It is like the others’. Other religions didn’t sound superstitious at their time. Now we say it is a superstition that Jesus preached for people when he was a newly born baby in the cradle. At that time people really watched it. If you read my writings carefully, then you will appreciate how it has happened. And you should not suspect that I have finished my writings. I have said only one word so far.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

During this passed period, ‘The Impostor’ has created thousands of spams messages in a hope to suffer me or suffer these two housemaids that I have with me or made me believe that a human, not a monster, is in charge of such an absurdity. I read a couple of them and I am going to open their apocalyptical satanic meaning, in a way to show that that at the time of writing of those junk messages the impostor was not aware that they bring such a meaning. He only deceived by devil to hastily write that message and then cannot withdraw it. This is what When I said we would be hearing voices on the Internet. That actually happened.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

Now, I forgot to add that if you believe that someone who was living in those dark ages, one thousand years ago, two thousand years ago, three thousand years ago, four thousand years ago who was hallucinating and believed that he was talking with the creator of the universe and all beings or as the son of that creator or as one who had travelled in one night to the heavens and to defend that belief you might blow yourself or wage war against civilians or kill and torture, then you are political or religious and have a sound mind and making fun of you is against the law. But if you claim that you are that same person whom they attribute those hallucinations to him and they follow him then you are of unsound mind and they should harass you. Even those fanatics might kill you or call you lunatic and say that that mission never would be delivered to anybody else again.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

In this country you are free to express whatever you like. You can call yourself prophet or god or son of the god or abdocted by aliens. In this course, I am worried that you gradually say that secret police tapping in your mind to find safe houses of foreign spies.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

Don't worry, Yanis. You know, being Messiah is not an easy thing to prove from ancient time to present time. And at any period of time thousands apply for it. And thousands still are disputing that established claimant have been fake or mad or charlatan or any other thing except what the claimant have claimed. Thousands vilify the believers for unsoundness of mind. Believers, in turn, vilify many individuals of human being as having unsound mind. All the followers of all known religions know females as created with an unsound mind who should enjoy fewer rights than males.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

Nobody buys these things anymore at present time and specially in this side of the world.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

Everybody buys. There are rumours say that the president of one of the most secular, industrialised countries wants to convert from one faction of Christianity to a more orthodox and tight faction of Christianity. It means that not only the principles but also the details of practice are still important. You might say that he is doing it for some conspiracy or some fake reason. Still, it shows that in fulfilling those missions such details are still very important. Why two people born after nineteen fifties who have been in the secular universities during seventies should care about religion at first place and then have a qualm about difference of practicing that same religion in second place and why such a useless piece of information should come into the attention of people and talk about it, at the end. Even having such a rumour shows importance of those details in modern time and supposedly scientifically organised places.
By the way, I do not want to sell anything.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

I advise you strongly, not to invest on people such as that gentleman. You have not finished your own story yet.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

I don't. Look, from the gentleman who recently gunned down many students in V-Tech to gentleman who is president and I mentioned him, all genuinely attach them and justify their actions on somebody like Jesus Christ. I want to invest on this abstraction. I want to ask if you are able to separate any capability unique to Him that is not shared by other historical characters. That capability is hallucination; that is his own unfounded, unverifiable and weird assertion that he is son of the God. But every other creditable person in his time from his own tribe and Romans believe that he is a hallucinating lunatic. You know there is a movie showing return of Van Gogh. And again people believe that he is lunatic. Perhaps in this side of the world psychiatrists would not be eager to investigate Christ signs and symptoms due to their personal attachment or due to respect for belief of their society, but for prophet of my native people all those manifestations have been collected by his enemies and have been passed through the history. In our ancient medical books one of those signs has been described as 'dance palsy'. It has been mentioned frequently in his own book as attributions of enemies of God. Still, my question remains unanswered. This is not a unique characteristic. It is shared by millions of lunatics through the history.
How is that such a few number of lunatics, less than you can count with fingers in your hands, have such an immense influence on the human history in span of four thousand years?
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

My judgment about them is among the lines of your comment.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

Look, my grand unified theory explains everything in a spectrum of observable instances of a single inner entity that manifests itself in innumerable external forms. Noah cannot convince a little village, preaching them for eight hundred years, that a flood will take them. People has no extrapolation from generations and during that eight hundred years that a flood has any likelihood in the middle of that desert and even so why they cannot escape to crests of the mountains. The honourable lady, the mental health nurse described in asylum magazine could not find one single comrade during twenty five years in a country full of titular organisations for defence of victimised people to push ahead her case.
We said that not everybody is the navigator, but in each period of time and each patch of space there are anchors. Anchors for earth; earth is floated on the ocean of death and non-existence. If it were not for the anchors, at any time earth would be flooded by death and extinction.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

Article we can read in the article section of this site, mentioned as 'Far out' is very instructive. I have seen it with my little eyes: He remains a society of one person whose friend, the only one who observes him burning, tells to himself, "If I come to him again I have f*cked me." And he wouldn't go. He is busy on practicalities of life.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

When I play disks some dance in perfection, in great ecstasy, some dance somehow, some are sitting watching, some are busy with their pda’s and mobile phones arranging business.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

You say you are not a preacher and a religious person. All these tactics have been shown down by official preachers who are pundits in their religions and are doctor in theology, philosophy, history, archaeology, literature; every conceivable amalgamation, interpreting symbols, using psychology, art of public speech and articulation. They have billions money to spend. They have thousands people to work for them, radios, TV’s, books, newspapers, computers, everything. Still, they cannot convince one person that there is anything out of this world that we can observe. Your shop window, I regret, looks a little humble.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

Well, you answered yourself. They should prove there is something out of this observable world that contradicts our long time sensual experiment. We discussed that builders of pyramids or people living during Noah were not superstitious. They were as intelligent and pragmatic and arguing as, say, MIT people today. They said Pharaoh would be resurrected if they could construct a proper building to preserve him. Noah people said they believe if they actually experience the flood. Their next generations believed because they saw it with their eyes.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

Now, you build a pyramid or bring a dead back to life or break the sea apart. Show something.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

I only can make flood. You have to wait eight hundred years. No, I can do whatever they did in span of ordinary life. In the famous lunatic-psychiatry-sci-fi, they asked the gentleman to show how he could travel with speeds greater than the speed of light between his own planet far away and earth. He demonstrated his voyage by saying 'goodbye and then hello'. He said he went there and then he was back in a lapse of an eyelash such that people could not recognise his absence. Though it has a deep wisdom, I do not do that way. I do it in a practical way such that next generation believe it as a scientific fact.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

Ms Rosie was arguing that the intellectuals who believe lunatics should have equal civil liberty to others; they believe that some people should be free to kill or devastate the life of other people. Among those intellectual are hundred of doctors and lawyers and philosophers and psychologists and every type of sensible sane people and they do not say such a nonsense. They say because thousands of people labelled as mentally ill do not have harm for others they should not be subjected to life imprisonment. When they committed a crime or if they shouted or attacked people they should be arrested for the period of time proportionate to his offence. Some people say you, perhaps a psychologist, should talk with a burglar, as a social service to see how you might rehabilitate him as a prevention to his next offence, or alcohol drivers. The same applies to a distressed person. Person who kills is mentally completely different with person who kills himself, except that with intervention you make him blurred. For example, in my country people did not commit suicide when losing the war or lose their spouse or become bankrupted, or become bad-reputed and dishonoured. They would die of a type of natural cause in a course of a year that I could find the word agony for it. They could kill themselves gradually. The religion had inhibited them from doing suicide. After nineteen twenties because of loosening of those bonds suicide started to become familiar among people.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

That wisdom the gentleman used is both anti-psychiatry and philosophical in recent philosophy of cognition in 'Frame Problem'. I was there, with my humble ears when John McCarthy first proposed it.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

One critique about that movie said that he was tired as much he heard about mad people as being wiser than sane people. Well, that movie story has been produced by a sane writer who could put any word in the mouth of the mad gentleman. Writers of cheapest movies or paperback have to read loads of serious literature to be able to put the pen on the paper. That makes any such material worthwhile to be looked for a serious message hidden somewhere. A message that has been transferred from serious people to the cheap consumable. That movie or TV show 'Monk', or soap 'Frasier' are anti-psychiatry mostly with all attempts to give a place for traditional psychiatry. But it is strange for me to observe that the serial 'Star Gate' is official propaganda of traditional coercive psychiatry as if psychiatry is a political party in need of propaganda. I had a hint to that already. At that time I had watched only one episode. Later, I noticed every episode has a hint by the doctor of the show to justification of psychiatry. It is very important. It is related to language course one-oh-one.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

Where is it related? Where that I was watching Euro News channel. That day by some chance the news was moving from this parliament to other parliament and to the next summit gathering to the next conference. Suddenly it looked like a caricature. All chubby people, well dressed and well provided within luxurious environments and cars and chase cars and guards and assistants and a big crowd of reporter following them with expensive instruments to record even most insignificant remarks. Who provide for them? Grand Unified Theory explains it and relates it to previous comments to answer why psychiatry is in 'Star Gate'.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

These Sci-Fi products are inspired by engineers and computer people and physicist and satellite makers and similar individuals, the so-called geeks and nerds. Naturally such people together with young people who potentially might follow that path have a mild interest to such products. Mild because their main euphoric interest is their own subject matter. But the establishment, those chubby people news who use the works created by these nerds, these intellectual proletariats, believe that they are lunatics and do not lose the opportunity to canvas them for chemical imbalance and brain MRI and ECT in case that they decide to stop making bomb and missiles for them.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

To smile at a friend become a bomb blast / Is not just an exotic sympathy / Or the moonstruck worldview of villainy / Admire the subtle and exquisite dance! /

Human metamorphosis to vapour / Is a shapeshifting act to celebrate / It is the dream killing death to penetrate / (By symbolic flight through propaganda) /

The secret power of the soldier-preachers / All the detailed plans for advertising / Campaigns, subterfuge and compromising /

- Interrupted - by one nurse or teacher / In a glowing espousal of her great worth / just for the pleasure of giving us birth


"Friendly Fire"
from: Poems Paroled
by ioannes nova
(nameless research group, 2006)

Peter Jones said...

In this episode from a Canadian TV movie, the imprisoned man started to teach himself painting. After many years he could draw beautiful paintings and it was a heart warming for passing the years of prison. One day he came back from the yard finding everything destroyed and torn and stolen. Prison warden believed, by doing that the offender did not tolerate his deserved punishment that was appropriate and legal. Then the man chopped his right painting hand in the carpentry shop of the prison. The warden believed that the imprisoned person was allowed to cool his anger or control it in any way that he liked to do it.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

In my previous country people believe that when Messiah (Mahdi) comes he has clean black robe and black turban with big eyes and glowing cheeks and always grin with teeth like pearls and when people walk with him they could not be taller and still he looks so moderate in height, and he leans back himself to the black cube there in Makka and everybody on earth can hear his invitation. He mines out all the wealth out of the earth. He in a phenomenological way can change the material reality of the things. With this power and appearance nobody becomes confused to recognize him and join to his victorious procession. So what remains to worry?
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

All those descriptions are correct. Centuries ago, every Thursday afternoon, they used to take a horse to the top of a nearby hill with flags to take Messiah down; all their faces sun burnt, thin and anaemic. I was there standing waiting for them to come a little ahead. I was westward where sun sets, waiting to show them when Messiah comes the sun rises from the west.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

Another name for Messiah they know is the 'defending lawyer'. It is beautiful. It is amazing. It is messianic.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

They believe in that they when Messiah comes, sun rises from the west instead of east. Sun should go to west, hence, to rise from there.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

Now what about Truman show? No it is not related to paranoia and psychiatry. It is the account of middle class exploited by the owners of capital. It is liberal, lefty, and hippy product. The setting of Truman is fair and human. It approaches the very basic, faintly depicted of human sacrifice. (I mean sacrifice of a human being for the sake of gaining the contest and pleasing Satan). The native of the language and culture immediately understand and appreciate metaphors used by the writer of the movie.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

What about ‘Frasier’ TV show? It is the antithesis to star gate show. Ms Tracey in misrepresentation article in the article section of this website writes, "Not knowingly but through ignorance and lack of self awareness); multi-faceted personalities with multi-faceted dimensions to our own unique set of circumstances, not one size fits all or shoved in an appropriate box to define our treatment. I have misrepresented myself on a few occasions, being diagnosed with hippomania, and perceived as being euphoric, over active, erratic, inflated self-esteem the list goes on." There was a Frasier episode that two brothers were talking about the psychology of their dog, the dog could only recognise his own name between all the quacking of two brothers. This experimented was not confined to the dog. When they started to talk about the psychology of their father, the poor old man only could recognise his own name ..., "dadi", ..., "dadi", ... among quacking of his sons. People labelled as mentally ill should distant their psyche from the shrink and should avoid using that dialect which is transmutation of the ancient witch doctors refurbished and redecorated as a scientist talk. They are monkey dressers only in command of coarse clumsy stitches on the tough blankets for a donkey. They are not tailors for the delicate, silk, expensive fabrics of human soul, all with golden threads woven inside and out.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

In the previous comment, I forgot to add some evidence to my advertisement when I said, "the tradition, coercive psychiatry is donkey dresser." Reason is beautifully explained in the article, 'Furer, Benjamin Rush" in the article section. Still, if it were Benjamin rush who had discovered that dragon actually could exist, he would study the dragon instead of the chained princess. No evidence can help psychiatry to revise. Modern chemistry has nothing to do with endless, futile, hard evidence, experimental, experiences of alchemy. Hubble has not any belief in effects of far galaxies on your love and money affairs just because an astronomer has objects with the same names as an astrologist. Professor Barnard was not an apprentice to a barbershop. They all have different universes of objects with apparently similar names.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

Before going one step further, let me tell you what kind of movies I like since I have understood that people here know it of importance due to influence of dramatic and cinema products. In the last hours before become captured, and I can remember those hours, I was watching 'New York, New York'. That was the genre I liked. Still, I enjoy watching a Nashville story or 'Singing in the Rain', "Officer, I am doing nothing. I am just singing and dancing in the rain!"
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

After the prison warden in the previous episode informed that the inmate had cut his right hand, he went to dinner with a friend. He believed the prison was for the imprisoned to punish and get patience to be able to inhibit his anger not to live there and enjoys self-pampering rituals such as painting. He believed it was no fault of his jail if the psychopath could not control his anger. It was when the abundant man mouth and hands were greasy with dripping fatty meal.
When Johnny Cash took his band to play for prisoners, he asked a glass of water from the reluctant warden. It was not possible to drink that yellowish liquid. He asked the warden what he drinks with his meals in the prison. The warden replied that it was coke.
No, nobody knows these facts that come on the screen so trivial and unexciting. The camera elevates you, the spectators, to a high human altruistic position that you believe, "well, today everybody knows these things. I love the victim. I hate the bully." Then it comes to you that you chase the real story of the honourable lady, the mental health nurse in the asylum magazine. You see that nobody knows that Mrs X and Mrs Y are a married couple with different names and use it for miscarriage of justice against people labelled as mentally ill. When you chase the mental bill act all liberal students of ninety seventy are cynically defenders of graveyard law and order. They ill-advise the poor mentally ill to go and among the shouting of wig-headeds tell the story that you have had with the staff of lunatic asylum as a help to customer services. The poor lad uses the tiny time window and tells his story. His wrong audience silent him with the same look as of the mentioned staff and his story becomes a tag for him for bill writers to remember the real case of violence attributed to these melancholic heads.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

Yes, I had a typo. I meant Mr X and Mrs Y were married but nobody knew it. It was confidential secrets and was not an interesting matter of scrutiny. Only beggars have not privacy for the state, and they constitute ninety five percent of the population.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

It seems you are now completely out of your planned scheme. Discussisions are totally unrelated.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

No, we are stacking materials for next batch of propositions for the Grand Unified Theory.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

Sire,
I owe you, all your great and many /Bodies corporate, for providing me /with all that I could ever want or need / Medication, solitude, and glory /

I could get blowjobs from male security / While female officers sit on my face / Both would lock me in their violent embrace / these chic militia jailers of purity /

It is real love, this Stockholm Syndrome / So true and full of passionate yearning / Both infected with the SS burning / So fuck you, guard, fuck you all the way home /

Potent Syndrome to give to a liar!/
This is an Act of Love, My General / (Did you not read my file)/ I return it all / It is over. You are done. I am on fire.


"IOU"
from 'Poems Paroled'
Nova, 2006

Peter Jones said...

In this episode of 'everybody loves Raymond', he and his wife try to show practically how intrusion of his father, mum and his brother in their life could be annoying. They do it by living twenty-four hours in the Raymond’s parents' house and doing intruding actions in the name of helping to them. At the end when the trio become frustrated, Raymond explains for them that they only were showing how bad it is to be intruding since his parents and his brother are always intruding in their private life. Mum answer is this, "You were intruding but we were not intruding. We are there only helping you."
Two years ago when I started, somebody came to begin arguing with me and I could not find a good example how that one is arguing. I wrote this sentence:
"Never, you can publish or say anything about your local psychiatry ward. " That one answered me in this fashion: that one’s comment begins
"Never, you can publish or say anything about your local psychiatry ward. "
I can, and do, say things about my local psychiatric ward. It's the only way to change things for the better, and it works. That one’s comment ends. This is the instance of language that only ‘mummy’ can create. If you watch that show the clever funny writer has shown many examples of that. The mildest instance of that language is used in politics, the so-called psychological war and propaganda. When you want to show to your adversary that “I know!”

Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

I was reading a book in communication, at the time that I was teaching that. It was a textbook, written for students in the west. It had this sentence, "In the soviet union textbooks are used for propaganda and indoctrination of students." (Author meant it was a bad practice toward innocent students not to be impartial.) If anybody could understand what is the point I’ll send him to paradise.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

Now why I did not continue arguing with the perpetrator of those comments. I cannot allow merge happens and world become flooded before my message gets to every soul. If there are any naughty remarks, Yanis is a level between the navigator and the material world. He (She) brings it one level down and offers them back to the darkness such that the pillars of the heaven do not collapse.
I cannot argue with darkness, except to flow the stream of existence to dark, foul corners to transcend them.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

If I go back to comments of darkness, I can show that all of them are apocalyptic and are aimed to blind human from looking at the Messiah and to make deaf the human hearing from Messiah. How else man can recognise Messiah except the commitment of darkness to muffle his voice.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

Please discharge me of this mission. I say whatever I like to say.
Yanis

Anonymous said...

Additionally, I express them articulate, short, and grammatically correct. I have sometimes typos but it is because I never spell check or revise my writing.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

My teacher who was also teacher at Berkley, and it was at that time of Berkley, explained for me that young people here in this country, I mean Cortoguay, according some study that he knew, with seventy percent certainty believed that with their personal effort they could change the bad law to a good law. He had a great admiration for such a society and was very impressed. Recently with some effort it seems that this magnificent nation are again back in their old track. It is time that mental health gang takes advantage and start to re-salvage their genuine human rights. But some voices have started that let accept this Dark Age, inhumane legislation and campaign for regulations and code of practice. As much they have been successful for the law they will be successful for the regulations. As I said one year ago, these voices only keep you busy until you lose your heat. They are pressure regulators.
I said these because I have a whim to see a good mental health laws and regulations for this country.
Carlo DJ

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Anonymous said...

Perhaps you like to attribute this recent inundation in this country to your prayer as the Noah's flood, don't you?
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

No, this is not Noah's flood. Noah's flood submerged the whole earth up to the crest of the highest mountains. But grand unified theory can explain this as well. It is related to previous comment about the pressure valves. It is related to not having a constitution. Because people here did not have a bourgeoisie revolution to root out the feudal, those feudal remained in power and then sold their swamplands to government to build housing for workers. They are always prone to divulge or damp foundation. Since they had not that revolution they also did not write a constitution. So the flood and constitution are so strongly attached together. Charles the second and the German George and Victoria said, "All right, whatever you say. Do it! But do not write it. Let's make them a tradition." Not bad reforms, but not modern. So they are always there with all of their power and they use it. The wealthiest person here is a feudal in one of the first, or perhaps the first, industrialised country, not a corporate owner. You see how they play with real estate and paper-money-selling at times that the corporate owners in Japan and Germany and New York plunge out of the windows of their skyscrapers. Leonardo diPardo liked to write these, two years ago in the manner of Jimmy Corkhill, but I didn’t allow him. Now that they are talking about it themselves, it seems all right to add to these humble notes. Every foreigner with some literacy could recognize it after living five years here. But because native people are used to it they do not recognize. Then what is the role of pressure relief valves? People used to riot here to find an opportunity to orchestrate it towards a bourgeoisie revolution like France. Creation of police force stopped spontaneous boiling of the poor. Then it remained to stop the learned and educated liberals and passionate heads. That story is long. It is that students go to university here only ninety days in a year. And let me leave these to some other occasions, if any.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

Now we are celebrating this number, seven hundred and seventy seven.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

Here they have bright people, among them left, who have a much moor deep insight about these ideas than yo. Leave those to them, and live with their own conditions in their country. "Live as romans with Romans!"
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

First, your comment about left! Why that tragedy happened to Althusser? It can be explained by my Grand Unified Theory. He accepted that such a thing as depression, maniac psychosis, up and down exists and he started to fit his powerful mind in those narrations and going to psychiatrist and listening to them and accepting them as expert of something that he was not educated in - all explained by grand unified theory- and if he does not follow the instructions he would go into dangerous episodes. In his ociety he was a rebel against the establishment, but not against such a stupid institution. He believed in science and expertise and psychiatry gives the fake impression of expertise and science. On the other hand, government of workers in the east who was very inspiring to him with all the differences they had with him in some small details of interpretation. That government, somehow found the american psychiatry model very useful in term of coping with some intellectual non-cooperative with the government and extending the idea of lunacy and specially paranoia, schizophreny attribution to outragious behaviours of citizens until the time that all the world had joined to the camp of workers. So he accepted that model and that role by default and succumbed his sensitive rebelion psyche to such devastating intervention, medication and treatment. He believed everything is organic and chemical from the flesh of his own body and should be administered right there by self claimed specialist that is psychiatry. This legacy still exists for the bulk and majority of left, particularly those who are more traditional folower of M,L, Kh, Br.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

Ah, I see, now. You were against revisionists and they called you mad. You believe in Stalin and Mao and perhaps Anvar Khojeh. Now tell me.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

I do not believe to anybody. I am Messiah. People should believe me. I do not believe anybody. As much I try people do not believe. They just cannot believe what I say.
This is the dialectic of apocalyptic - Messianic.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

If you are Messiah then you should be tall with long hairs, and gray beard and put on a rob and go to marketplace and raise your hands to the sky and shout at people and poor should gather around you and you talk eloquently as if reading from an invisble script and beggars and king and priests should hear your shocking outrageous words at the same time around you in the street and in the palace and in the temple. Common should become silent and impressed and half believing, king should laugh and call you a mad and the priest should stand up from his chair and with half of his face toward you shows extreme pious anger. Perhaps you want to waive these as well, don't you?
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

Well, if I live longer with some level of health, all these will happen, except that we do not have any temple anymore. That institution has been recaptured again by the psychiatrists, that is, witch doctors and all the impressions that you have delivered will be just similar to that. In your tableau, the priest asks the king to provide some soldiers for the priest to apprehend the outrageous corrupter of the faith who is dangerous and violates the law and order. That law and order convince the king for the cooperation otherwise king like other ordinary normal people knows in heart that there is no danger in the man except that he might open a shop next to the shop of the priest. And priest aggrandises the danger to keep himself on the lazy, inconsequential, parasite, and well paid position.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

Psychiatrists do not get angry. You can act and enact. They'll watch you toughtfully only.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

You become angry when you could not handle a situation without anger. Hence, if you can handle the situation without fear of defeat or becoming outsmarted then you do not need to deploy your anger. In the 'The Collector' movie the man was all the way calm, courteous, and thoughtfully watching except when the girl wanted to plan or ploy, or commit to escape or outsmart the man, then he would show his anger. The psychiatrist is like that, and the priest in your tableau. So I am free only, in tight restriction here to use my computer and eat and go to toilet. Even I am not allowed to go for walking. If I try to contact anybody, for example, my colleagues in the Am...Socoi...assoc they delete my mail or delete the response. They do not allow me to outsmart them. If I do they punish my daughter. They punish my wife. They punish me. They sabotage our cars such that we have to pay much money. And the garage gives a cue to us such that I understand it is a punishment, for instance, the bill amounts to three hundred and thirty three pounds and thirty-three pence while it should not occur to us at all at first place and if really would, should be ninety five pounds. Or they punish my daughter. They steal a subscribed magazine for a week or two. Then my little sweetheart constantly asks me what happened to the magazine. "Why they have not sent this week issue?"
Now you should see what would happen even if one person, only one person wants to sympathise me or join to me. The impostor has sent an accomplice of them to citizen commission for human rights as a fake penetrating element such that if I tried to find a friend they can act. You see everything as if they know seriously that I am the real Messiah. It is the evidence of being Messiah and not just a lunatic. So it comes a day that they genuinely will become mad dog angry only if I can live a bit longer.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

Now, what happened to Jesus himself. I assume he came out and started to say that he was king of heavens. He didn't. Before they came to him he did not go to claim anything. He was most of the time playing with his testicles. He was examining sick people, perhaps doing some anatomy of dead, thinking why people become infected with leprosy. Now he claimed that he was a king or a saviour. What the real people of power in his little community do to him? They do not leave him alone. they say we know this beggar bastard has become mad. They recognise his madness.
one thousand years ago we had a famous doctor. They brought to him a young man who was near to death because refusing to eat food. The patient believed that he was a cow and they should slaughter him. My doctor took a big knife and pretended that he was a butcher and wanted to kill the man then suddenly stopped and said to man that if he were a cow and should be slaughtered then he was too thin for customers and should be fat first since the butcher wouldn't slaughter a thin cow. Then he put the man on food and week after week repeated that performance and gradually the man recovered. (Yanis knows him. His name is Avecina; he is a victim of modern conflicts. He has lost his nationality in modern time.) So people knew from ancient time what is lunacy and hallucination. This man claims he is son of the unseen god. He is saviour, that is, he is Moses returning or revenging or he is Cyrus who is defending and compensating. He is a king. He can return dead to life. Go and do it! You only feel pity for such a person if you can find him. Or you laugh. He means symbolically he is such and such. "We have Lucretius here. We do not have room for beggars around." We should do something for him to settle him. Then that vessel of the most profane comes ahead. That vessel knows everything about the Messiah. That vessel gives a very detailed description of Messiah. Those details are half correct and half filled with the imagination of people. In the temple there is one person who finds all that art consistent with his long awaited ambition. That vessel do not ask for anything, only that they feed its carcass and do what [it] says to Messiah. If I go to the ruler of this country or Soviets, or Moghols (well Nazis were exceptions; they used to kill lunatics) and tell them that I am the king of heavens and son of the unseen god they do not kill me. They immediately become sure that I am a harmless lunatic.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

So they decided to cure Jesus. They were like me and didn't know that cure is different with treating. They were not so cunning in pathology to find a ‘facile because’, and a way out of the blind road as to call the inconsequential imprisonment a treatment that alleviates not a definite cure. We do not have a definite cure for anything because sooner or later everybody dies on this planet at most after ninety or a hundred years of living. Even eating and drinking are not solution of our hunger and thirst and after couple of hours we are back on our misery.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

Jesus said you should love. No, he said you should love Jesus. Is it contrary to your knowledge? Yes, since I correct what has been wrongly conveyed. It is dialectic. What do I say? Should you love me too, like Jesus? No, since I am beyond your love. Love should beseech me and I snub. I snub to love and love should worship me to look at love. You should love the love. Love is one level between I and you. Love is like Yanis. Love is me who have descended.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

In one of the previous comments I had a hint that 'they' believe nerds and geeks and people of some 'talent' capability, those who practically can intervene in the material and aesthetic world outside there in creation and changing something for a better enjoyment of human being are somehow some type of loonies. This is the most important part of my commitment to these humble writings mentioned that, for instance they know that people with interest in science, in particular, the younger watching sci-fi shows on TV. Concurrently establishment, that is, absolutely and irrevocably sane, normal, and wise people call those people as crackpots. They know, these people are good for all kind of slavery, but they are at the same time dangerous that easily might join to people with a higher volume of tone. If they are asked they might say that actually only crackpots have such interest and no serious scientist watch these types of junk. For that I asked Grant Hardy to search for any evidence. He could find out that all the scientists engaged in design and erection of the first space shuttle signed a petition to change the name of that vehicle to sci-fi character 'Captain Kirk' instead of the patriotic name selected by the establishment. The other was selection of 'xena', a comic character as the name for the most remote object whirling around the sun. This might be selected by a member of near-sighted strong-geek club; definitely. The people who selected this name reasoned similar to me. They said it is like the names already people used to take from mythology and ancient drama characters. Those also had craze. The world is divided to two groups, crackpots who create and normal sane who fart. This was my theme from the beginning.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...
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Peter Jones said...

What is the spectrum of craze? Craziness of those creators and those who become agents of change is of the type that psychiatry labels as psychotics. It is not mental illness. It is the instinct of human. But business people and politicians and other farting people become mentally ill, that is, they become neurotic. With intervention they might benefit, learning to perform similar to delivery of the crazy people.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

Happily, we returned to our discussion we had at the begining. I sum up. You were a geek and/or a nerd with best theories about green energy and they called you a mad?
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

Well, somehow! I need to expand it.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

I asked you yes or no, and I do not need further explanation. Now tell me what you believe was your diagnosis according to your own speculation that they took you there?
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

Nothing!
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

But, already you admitted that you were a neurotic.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

Now, let me write for you this story. all of you with some attention to society is familiar with it. In my native place it is quite straightforward. Here, there are some complications to hide it. It is when a prostitute decides that enough is enough and should make a crap out of her pimp. Well, she goes to police to complain. What happens? They file her complain for a court? No! First they help themselves of free service that has come to them. Then send for the man. What for, to chastise him? Ah yes, when he comes along he is already friend with all the officers. When they were in his bar served with free drinks. They chat and laugh. Then they send the poor creature back into the street since she has not any evidence against the man. It is not the end. She should administer her livid face, unemployed for a month. Then she should pay for all the bribes the gigolo spent in the police. Then she should sign new draft cheques for any future rebels.
I came here to complain. They have added my wife and my daughter to my lifetime detention. They do not have a justice system or any people attorney to go for complain. Their judges are appointed by the administrative system that is an interim authority selected from a political party! And he can dismiss them. There is no access to legal aid for ordinary citizens.
If I go to a judge or a lawyer or police or docor they do not listen to my complaint and do not investigate it or chase it. First, they listen if a psychiatrist might have an idea experimenting on you.
Instead they have an all inclusive, extensive network of espionage among the ordinary, harmless civilians consisted out of the state controlled physicians, social workers, and psychiatrist who have not commitment to their professional duty as much as they have commitment to sorting out the affairs of the state and establishment. You cannot find a private doctor and ask him to forget you when he is finished with you. He keeps your record and without any effective hurdle passes it to anybody who comes forward for that information. They are paid and run by the state as the employees not as being paid by the taxation and wealth created by the people.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

They are not spy. They just write down everyting carefully.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

They do not write everything carefully. They hate me already by default due to cynicism, xenophobia and arrogance of their higher class and fear of decrease of job opportunities or available space in their lower class. Those sympathies whistle blowing, vigilance and compassions seen in their literature and intellectuals coils back kept reserved for themselves.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

You said espionage. My wife is so congenial, so simple hearted (next livid face abducted slave prostitute in rank after me). She has never read a book except her uni-books or Daniel Steele type fictions. She has not any faintest idea about politics or such. She told me that these GP's here are squalors. She used a word that we use for dirty immoral informants in our language. They can make a crap out of our lives. It was when I wanted to complain from cupa heart consultant four years ago and the head of local gp surgery telephoned to blackmail my family as if complaining is an 'odd' behaviour. If you tell the consultant why he doesn't send you for a blood test or listen to your heart or look with that instrument into back of your eye and instead he is using cues prescribed by the impostor to annoy you and this is an episode of ploy as cardio-vascular ploy of a mentally ill and the heart consultant should not independently investigate it and should report my blood pressure as 200/100 not 240/135, since this lunatic is obsessive compulsive towards the round numbers.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

Another story I have seen in my native place and you can discern perhaps here, too is this. When they take some young activist there and I have seen all kind of them in my life from both sides governing or governed, reactionary or progressive mercenary or passionate any kind every type everything, then to mock him and surprise him and suffer him mentally, they offer some diagnosis to him except what they believe about him. For example, " you are here because you didn't pay for your traffic tickets?" Or "you are here for shop lifting" Or they know he is running a safe house with arms and explosives and all, "You are here for picketing in the strike?" Now, the moral of the story is that the impostor is (has been) playing such gimmicks with me. They offer diagnosis for me such as neurotics or autistic. These are not important. I am 1951 and can run a country. And I am Messiah and these are like ancient Greeks my first nation and Romans will put my name on the stars.
Carlo DJ

Anonymous said...

You said like Greeks did you mean Greeks were bad and Romans were good, and that applies to these and those? Since I am a Greek.
Yanis

Peter Jones said...

No, I mean Greeks were nearer and had great philosophers and more apt to convert earlier to gold than Romans. Romans have a great army besides a great culture. All human being are my children. I am Messiah. I only see one face that is my own beautiful face. I want to project that perfect face to the entire universe. The matter is waiting to be created with sky and heavens and stars. I am not waiting. They are waiting.
Carlo DJ

Peter Jones said...

Another story that I have is related to bloodline. One discovery in my grand unified theory was the now a days fashionable story of Holy Grail that I also wrote it for the writer of the book. But I never got any receive of mail or anything. We said parallel to prophets we have a line of blood of 'normal' people who become sacrificed for the cause of prophets with certain popular conditions, such as having grey beards and be thirsty and gathering paupers in market place and raising their hands to sky and being great orators. In our legends we have SSiavoush whose bloodline goes in the Yahia (john the baptiser) and John gives his blood to Ossain-ben-Fatima (bafomeh in the story of middle ages heresy of knights of temples). They all have famous killers whom faithful of religions curse. One said if it was not for the Herod or other killers we had not john or Ossain and faith would be suppressed and forgotten. Well, the killers had not such an aim to create great statues such as john or Ossain. John and Ossain created such an existence for themselves. If we bring Herod and others they would say we wanted John to show his potential and become history instead of living anonymously with their grandchildren. That applies to many things that happen to me.
For example, ‘The Impostor’ had not any idea that I should write here and he would suppress it if he could. It is like my mail or email or thousands other things that he has taken from me. They are working hard all around the world to kill this Internet and change it to another tool of commercial advertisement and suppression. Geeks and nerds do not allow them. Everyday they bring a new trick out.
Carlo DJ

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